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one thing to consider is that citi's full time is also rotational. so if you get an offer you may still have trouble getting the desk you want/may end up in PB. you'd better look more into this as i am not 100% certain of the details, but something to be aware of.
I have not heard of this happening. I actually did an internship at Citi last summer and start fulltime in July. My buddy has the two internship offers and to me Citi is a no brainer but has had others tell him UBS S&T is much better.
During the summer that was not what I heard and that UBS was near the bottom of S&T of the BB. Any truth to this?
I agree with you. I wouldn't go as far as saying Citi is a nobrainer, but its a better choice overall. Obviously, product groups etc matter a lot. Also, if he's going to be in Stamford, then that is clearly a no brainer.
didnt know we had different colored S&Ts on here haha
hmm that is interesting...i have a few friends now in the fulltime stuck with the rotational program. as i said i wasn't 100% sure of the facts, so it's possible i'm wrong-glad you guys looked into it, that was my objective.
Well it still could be the case. I haven't actually completed the analyst program yet.
So what would be the pro's of going to UBS?
If anyone can send me the recruiter's email for the S&T full time rotational that would be amazing. Im talking about Citi.
UBS has stronger equities desks. Citi has stronger FI desks. Bear in mind this is very general though.
bear in mind UBS is in Stamford. do not take this lightly; it can ruin a lot.
Citi programme is rotational, but bear in mind that the rotational aspect lasts for four months, a rather small amount of time.
With regards to ending up in PB, you'll only do that if you want to end up in PB.
Citi conversion ratio in the US is also very high.
Yes citi's conversion ratio is very high (but there is also another way to look at this) Citi had one of the highest SA-to FT conversion rates last summer (around 80 to 85% from what i heard (including speaking to a citi trader) and thus there will be a ton of new people starting in July 2012---- not completely sure about UBS but doubt it was that high--- thus with revenues down Citi might have a lower rate than 2011. this is sort of what happened at Barcap (2010 interns had a really high conversion rate) and then the 2011 class had a difficult time in comparison just to keep in mind
hmmm
Citi S&T vs UBS S&T for SA (Originally Posted: 02/21/2013)
If I was planning on eventually getting an offer, which one is best for S&T? I know it depends on the desk. But what about its reputation?
Friends at Citi tell me in the last couple years they give out between 40-50 FT offers out of the 60ish SA
Citi Vs. UBS S&T SA (Originally Posted: 12/15/2007)
I'm having a hard time getting a feel for the different cultures/experiences for a SA position at Citi and UBS. Which trading SA program is considered stronger, and why? How are the cultures of each? Also, which is more likely to offer continuation into a full analyst position?
Thanks!
Fixed Income/Structured Credit/MBS not doing well at both banks, UBS #1 for Currencies (interchangeable with DB), Energy is great at UBS, Equities I do not know about. I would think Citi would have a stronger Trading culture, but with Pandit's arrival that may change.
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