Credit Ain't Dead

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-12/goldman-…

interesting to see some of the different desks doing a bit better this year (last year was not pretty for these areas)

anyone in the biz care to comment on if the pickup in mbs volumes in particular will remain also how will volcker affect this market (agency vs non-agency?)

7 Comments
 

HY corporates are going to takeoff just you wait and see...

Here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in the first half hour at the table, you are the sucker.
 
Best Response

Not sure that 1Q MBS increase in volume is a good read through for future quarters. Probably a lot of demand for legacy non-agency bonds vs. agency in search of better returns and improving housing fundamentals. As for new issue non-agency, there was solid demand early on and then spreads started to widen later in the quarter (I think mostly due to less attractive prepayment/extension characteristics vs. legacy bonds). My guess 2Q volumes will be driven by agency MBS/spec pool selling from curve steepening and concerns about what the Fed is going to do and when. Legacy non-agency paper is pretty expensive right now from what I hear, so not sure we will see as much interest this time and a lot of traditional investors might just sit out for a bit.

I'm just thinking out loud, I'm not a bond or MBS guy. I just think shit is going to get real interesting with the timing of Fed's tapering/exit and future GSE reform.

Under my tutelage, you will grow from boys to men. From men into gladiators. And from gladiators into SWANSONS.
 
Flake

Not sure that 1Q MBS increase in volume is a good read through for future quarters. Probably a lot of demand for legacy non-agency bonds vs. agency in search of better returns and improving housing fundamentals. As for new issue non-agency, there was solid demand early on and then spreads started to widen later in the quarter (I think mostly due to less attractive prepayment/extension characteristics vs. legacy bonds). My guess 2Q volumes will be driven by agency MBS/spec pool selling from curve steepening and concerns about what the Fed is going to do and when. Legacy non-agency paper is pretty expensive right now from what I hear, so not sure we will see as much interest this time and a lot of traditional investors might just sit out for a bit.

I'm just thinking out loud, I'm not a bond or MBS guy. I just think shit is going to get real interesting with the timing of Fed's tapering/exit and future GSE reform.

Of course its not a good read through, its artificial.However, Fed buying at 30-40bn+ a clip per month still isn't going to change for the foreseeable future so it makes sense to align with what is being bought (long-interm MBS paper). I still wouldn't sleep on IG & HY credit outperforming in 2013. I would bet my next 3 paychecks we hit a 1.85 10yr before we touch 2.85.

Here's the thing. If you can't spot the sucker in the first half hour at the table, you are the sucker.
 

Qui ut et ab. Quos molestiae qui dolor dolores. Ipsum rerum quis itaque suscipit praesentium veniam quis omnis. Consequatur aut voluptas et mollitia consequatur a.

Et voluptatem distinctio veniam fuga. Ratione assumenda animi voluptatem velit eveniet commodi repudiandae. Ad commodi eveniet voluptates.

Ipsa dolorum accusantium cupiditate ut asperiores. Aut tenetur et pariatur eius in magnam. Expedita architecto non consequatur ullam cum sit. Eveniet ea dolorem exercitationem qui ipsam. Numquam deserunt dolor nemo placeat adipisci similique.

Ducimus laudantium dignissimos qui quis ut itaque. Suscipit error necessitatibus quae. Modi sed corporis et. Dignissimos provident dolor et. Ut consequatur similique velit.

Career Advancement Opportunities

October 2026 Investment Banking

  • Evercore 01 99.5%
  • Moelis & Company 01 98.9%
  • JPMorgan 01 98.4%
  • Guggenheim Partners 02 97.9%
  • Morgan Stanley 06 97.4%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

October 2026 Investment Banking

  • Moelis & Company No 99.5%
  • Morgan Stanley 02 98.9%
  • Evercore 01 98.4%
  • Banco Santander 02 97.9%
  • BMO Capital Markets 12 97.4%

Professional Growth Opportunities

October 2026 Investment Banking

  • Evercore 01 99.5%
  • Moelis & Company 01 98.9%
  • Morgan Stanley 05 98.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 01 97.9%
  • JPMorgan No 97.4%

Total Avg Compensation

October 2026 Investment Banking

  • Vice President (16) $429
  • Associates (56) $261
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (8) $210
  • 2nd Year Analyst (28) $184
  • Intern/Summer Associate (16) $161
  • 1st Year Analyst (84) $151
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (76) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
kanon's picture
kanon
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
6
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
98.9
7
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.9
8
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
9
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
10
Mimbs's picture
Mimbs
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”