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Not an S&T guy so not exactly in-the-know about this

but isn't DE Shaw mostly alg trading? Meaning you right your own scripts and your P&L is entirely dependent on your black box?

I was also under the impression that the S&T was pretty undifferentiated at the analyst and associate levels.

Isn't it better at this point in your career to secure an offer from a BB and get a good amount of exposure to trading several different products?

 

if you can get into DE Shaw now you will get in later too (hopefully that is). So maybe you want to reap the benefits of a BB gig (class size, exposure, network and all of the rest).

Its up to you in the end, we cannot make that choice

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Citi is the better option right now.

"Look, you're my best friend, so don't take this the wrong way. In twenty years, if you're still livin' here, comin' over to my house to watch the Patriots games, still workin' construction, I'll fuckin' kill you. That's not a threat, that's a fact.
 

DES. Hands down. Also agree with oompa. If you want to really go the BB route, you can most definitely do better than Citi if you got an offer from DES.

 

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