Female Bullying in Prop Firm
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are these females also traders? are you taking risk with your own P&L yet?
since trading is all about that one number....your P&L...i would suggest whenever you feel something negative, ask the girl "whats your P&L yesterday/today? SCOREBOARD!!!"
Just always bring it back to being professional...and honestly...you need to grow a thicker skin...trading is a tough business. The guys won't have much sympathy because guys bust each other's balls...but its a friendly sort of thing...just like the way guys talk smack when they play video games....its a way to let off some steam. You could call out the girls on the girl stuff
"hey stacy, when's the last time you washed your hair?"
or when a girl makes a comment about your weight "hey stacy, you really gonna eat that donut?" (regardless of what she's eating/doing...this is a subtle dig...disguised as a concern over her health and well being). Of course she is probably not eating a donut...doesn't matter...cuz in your mind you can think "you fat fuck" (don't say that out loud....let it be inferred).
and if a girl asks "what do you mean?" you could respond with "oh, i'm just curious" Guys would probably laugh (i think i would). You got to keep your comments/questions in the realm of deniability of course.
The only way to fight fire is with fire. You say they don't trade their own money? Use that to your advantage....ask them "so, what are you trading today?" Just always being it back to trading...
This is the worst advice I have ever heard. These women are obviously insecure and jealous of you. If you ask them if they are "really going to eat that donut" or "what's your P/L" they will lash out even more. Just talk to them like human beings, ask them about their day/weekend/life and maybe have a genuine conversation with them. Stop being so petty and think for a second why they would be acting that way (which you've answered in your post).
snigger? Do you mean snicker?
Im in the UK
Snigger: give a half-suppressed, typically scornful laugh Snicker: chocolate bar Chocolate bar: Candy =)
You'd be risking your life saying snigger in certain cities of the US.
Aren't you the same person who asked back in February on why CFA holders can't trade their own account because it will be an unfair advantage? You have no experience at all, trading anything for any firm or bank and you've been trying to land a trading job at a hedge fund lol... Now you're telling us you've been trading your own book for a prop firm for 18 months? Don't you have better things to do?
I took it to add some real work experience to my cv, having successfully traded my own book for 18 months-ish.
Can you read? I trade my own self funded book, because of this I got a junior position at a prop firm. You definitely sound like you'd have a lot in common with the women at my work
edit: Aren't you the one who was asking for advice on losing money on trades with your senior trader? I can handle my own trades but thanks for your input. lol
"The only way to fight fire is with fire. " Noooo... don't do that. Not if you need the job anyway.
They are being incredibly rude. Call it out politely, firmly and lather, rinse and repeat. This is the usual advice on Ask A Manager anyway, and that site has a wealth of workplace advice and lots of advice about horrible coworkers.
How can you eat like that and stay slim? "Gee, good genes I guess. How about that TPS report?
Are you wearing extensions? (touches hair) "Wow, that was rude. It's considered very impolite to touch people's hair."
Do you have an eating disorder, is that why you're so skinny? "Wow, that's a rude thing to ask someone. Not sure why you're so concerned about other's eating habits? I'm sure you wouldn't like it if someone did that to you." Change subject.
Basically, shut down these conversations quickly without making a huge fuss. Repeat until it becomes boring that you won't rise to the baiting.
Either kill them with kindness/playfulness or reply in a way that takes all the oxygen out of the potential fire they're trying to light under you.
"Do you have an eating disorder?" "No, but my tapeworm does."
"Do you wear hair extensions?" "Oh my god... do you think my hair's too thin?!?"
Answers like that after a little while will make them realize that they aren't going to get a "proper" rise out of you nor will they receive the sorts of responses they want out of you that they can continue to play with - they'll soon enough get bored and/or think you're weird... either way, they'll leave you alone.
Try to maintain your temper, don't lash out or they'll surely try to flip it on you and try to involve H.R.
Avoid letting them see you upset or crying, those reactions from you will only further feed the mean girls.
EDIT: If they're as cunty as all that, beware if you feel that you are getting baited, especially when one of them has a phone in her hand and/or if there's a pair of them chatting you up... video and witnesses can fuck you.
Good luck!
Lol. A girl spread a rumor that I was anorexic so I'd be suspended for counseling and mental health checks on the golf team. Don't bother. Women get hella jealous hella easily. You're probably the hot new girl that turns all the heads. I know it's hard to let it get past you, as stuff like that pisses me off a lottttt, but remember you got hired at the end of the day because you deserve the job and have the diligence to do it. They can go f themselves. Master the soft smile and silence is golden baby, or possibly a sarcastic thanks and move on---pisses ladies off.