How to get a book as an analyst?

I work at this shop in Houston for 1 year and still couldn’t get a seat (graduated end of 2020). Instead I am being told to just do more analysis. It’s been 1 year and 3 months already so I lost hope of getting a seat. How do I get a seat? Should I go back to school? Practice trading interviews and apply? I don’t know anymore. I’m seeing them hire 2-3 traders out of college this past year but I still can’t get a seat?

 
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What kind of company is this?  If you are in commodities, 1.5 years of experience is nothing and very few people trade at that time.

I have seen analysts become traders in commodities in 2 ways.  Make analytics directly relevant to trading or just do a good enough job that people put you on a development track.

The former involves actively identifying mispriced instruments, backtesting, usually in a more data oriented or systematic way than a normal trader.  I have seen people get paper books even on physical desks doing this.  Many analysts, believe it or not, never actually do analytics that relates in any way to trading.  99% of the research I see is just explaining yesterday’s moves, summarizing historic data, or putting out balances that never have any message behind the number.  Try to not do that.

The latter is just making people trust you as a competent, creative person.  You can get put on a development program (the majors have these) if you do your first job well.  Seen this happen lots of times to people in market analytics, risk, etc.

 

For example, if your team expresses prop views on a location differential between two places, you can find- what the fundamental drivers are of that spread, test if those drivers work in history to predict that price, see what those drivers are in the future, discern if the implied price from those factors is different than the bid/ask, make rules on how different they have to be to execute, backtest a strategy of executing on those conditions.  
 

In my view, doing all of that is actually pretty hard.  But it works for people who really like the “analysis” part of an analyst’s job and want to keep doing that once they own risk.

 

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