Non quant roles that use heavy math
I’m a high school senior going to college next year. I’ve been accepted to some semi-targets and low targets so far, and still waiting on others. I’m interested in trading roles, and want to work in a position that uses actual math (not high school algebra), but also working with people and networking. I’m probably not good enough at math to get in top quant funds, and I also don’t fit with the international/nerdy culture at those firms, and prefer a more people/connections driven career.
Are there any jobs I should learn more about that would be a great fit for me? I plan on double majoring in Math and Finance, and I might even try to do a PhD, but I want to work in a more traditional finance role. Thanks so much for the advice
Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some non-quant finance roles that still involve significant math while allowing for networking and people-oriented work:
Sales & Trading (S&T):
Investment Banking (IBD):
Hedge Funds (Non-Quant):
Private Equity (PE):
Risk Management:
Corporate Finance (Treasury or FP&A):
Given your interest in math and finance, a double major in these fields is an excellent choice. If you’re considering a PhD, it could open doors to more specialized roles, but it’s not necessary for most traditional finance careers. Starting with internships in S&T or IBD during college can help you explore these paths further and refine your preferences.
Sources: Advice On a Career, Accounting vs Finance: Part 1 – Career Paths, New breed of Finance and Capital Markets Professionals, Most academic style of investing that requires the most thought?, Q&A: Non-finance major --> BB IB --> Director at $5B+ Multi-strat HF (in 6 years)
Well, right off the bat doing a PHD in math is going to be a complete waste of time. I'd reckon to say even most quants don't have a PHD.
If you don't want a math-heavy desk, then don't major in math and finance. Maybe minor in math or CS if you really want. You're better off just getting a high GPA and into clubs at school, which matters more than what you major in.
You'll be fine with just taking Calc 1 and maybe Calc 2. Statistics as well. Programming and coding skills trump pure math skills imo.
TLDR:Major in Finance, get a high GPA and into clubs, drop the double major and just network and learn what products/desks you might want to work on. Most internships in S&T are rotational so you'll get exposure to both ends of the spectrum in terms of math skills.
Just my two cents.
I agree completely. When I worked as an assistant branch manager at the wells fargo - anchorage branch, we had a joke that the only useful thing about PhDs was that you could feed them to the polar bears. This is because PhDs are typically not athletic and can't run away as fast.
I would definitely advise a more relevant major such as arctic shipbuilding or marketing.
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