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Hi, I'm wondering what career to go into if I want to take trades and manage risk.

I'm planning on going into equity research and then hopefully moving into a hedge fund analyst role. However, I don't want to be stuck covering one sector, and I don't want to be forced to write research that isn't 100% true/my opinion. I also don't want to have to be a PM to do whatever i want (within reason).

I've been looking into the trading side of Sales & Trading, but I'm not sure if you're forced to "be a salesman," or if there's a position where you can just trade without constantly asking for approval. When I look it up, the information is pretty vague and puts a lot of emphasis on market making, which I thought quants took over years ago.

What I'm asking:

  • What job lets you buy and sell whatever, cover multiple sectors?
  • Is there a role like this that exists besides running your own money?
  • Does S&T have HF analyst exits?
  • does sales and trading involve lots of reports and stock pitch?

If you want to cook me in comments its fine, but please answer my questions first.

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If you're looking for a career where you can take trades, manage risk, and have flexibility across sectors, here's what you need to know based on the most helpful WSO content:

  1. Job that lets you buy and sell across multiple sectors:

    • A Discretionary Hedge Fund Trader role might align with your goals. In this role, you can trade across various sectors and asset classes, provided you have a strong thesis and risk management framework. However, you’ll still need to justify your trades to your PM or risk committee.
    • Prop Trading is another option where you can trade with more autonomy, though it often comes with strict risk limits and performance expectations.
  2. Does such a role exist besides running your own money?

    • Yes, roles like Discretionary Hedge Fund Trader or Prop Trader allow you to trade without being confined to one sector. However, complete autonomy is rare unless you’re running your own book or fund. Even in these roles, you’ll need to align with the firm's risk parameters and investment philosophy.
  3. Does S&T have HF analyst exits?

    • Yes, but it’s less common compared to other roles like equity research or investment banking. Sales roles in S&T are generally harder to transition to the buy-side, as highlighted in WSO threads. However, trading roles in S&T can lead to hedge fund opportunities, especially if you’ve built a strong track record and network.
  4. Does Sales & Trading involve lots of reports and stock pitches?

    • Trading roles in S&T are less focused on reports and pitches compared to equity research. However, you’ll still need to communicate trade ideas and market views effectively, especially if you’re on a trading desk that collaborates with sales or research teams. Sales roles, on the other hand, involve more client interaction and pitching.

Key Takeaways:

  • If you want to trade across sectors with some autonomy, Discretionary Hedge Fund Trader or Prop Trader roles are your best bets.
  • S&T trading roles can lead to hedge fund exits, but sales roles are less likely to.
  • Equity research might not be ideal for you if you dislike writing reports or being confined to one sector.
  • Networking and building a strong track record are crucial for transitioning to roles with more autonomy.

Hope this clears things up! Let me know if you need more insights.

Sources: Q&A: I'm an Agricultural Commodities Trader, Q&A: I'm an Agricultural Commodities Trader, Q&A: Credit hedge fund analyst at MF, former BB trader, Q&A: 25 years Sales / Trading Experience, Conversation with an Equities Sales Trader

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Simple: Prop shop. Most will have you trading within 6 months. Market makers and OMMs especially. 

S&T is decent, but most won't have you trading your own book for like, a full year at least. 

 

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