Why do traders do this?

Why do experienced/accomplished traders work for a firm when they can work on their own and make more profit?

[I am a sophomore in the process of learning more about financial services industry. Please be cooperative if this comes off as naive. Thank you all for your responses.]

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So if they are already accomplished, they can have their own shit, right?

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Infrastructure (capital, systems) and information: Being able to trade/be part of the interbank market (as opposed to going through a retail broker) and seeing the flows that goes through (especially if you want to trade something more complicated than spot FX or equities) is invaluable. Can't stress enough. Earn Bid-Offer spread: If you are on a flow desk in theory you make $ by locking in the spread. Not many products have this luxury anymore though, but at least you can leverage your flow to reduce your own prop trading costs (crossing someone else's spread). Not using your own money: Uncertainty will end you, at least you are only risking your job though when working for someone else.

Unfortunately we rely on our superiors to reward us for when we get things right - doesn't appear to be the case anymore and bonuses are becoming more dependent on firm-division-subdivision-team-individual performance (all the separate parts need to meet some benchmark in order for a bonus to filter down to you). However, management appear only too happy to be rid of you/openly criticize when things aren't going well.

 

Trading on the sell side is a completely different universe from trading your own cash on your own. Its not only a completely different style of trading, it also takes a whole different psychology to do it.

But even taking that away, if you are anything but a cash trader, it would be a bit difficult/impossible to just go trade PA the products you know how trade.

 

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