Marcus_Halberstram:
Im sick of all the hype this kid is generating, sure he, at three years old intuitively thought through and figured out why Mars' moons are potato shaped in a matter of seconds... but can he build an lbo model from scratch? Indiana isn't even a target, wtf is the big deal.

This.

 
<span class=keyword_link><a href=/company/sac-capital target=_blank>SAC</a></span>:
happypantsmcgee:
I was literally shocked that he was a white kid.

What'd you expect ?

Dot or Chinaman
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
 

He's got a good major and extracurriculars. If he could demonstrate interest in finance, I am sure he could get a couple of interviews even though he's from a non-target. What's his GPA?

- Bulls make money. Bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered. - The harder you work, the luckier you become. - I believe in the "Golden Rule": the man with the gold rules.
 
gopadub:
haha well i mean we do want the best 170 IQ minds to work in finance instead of engineering..........NOT! ......because he might take my gig.............

Who gives a shit about engineering... its kind of annoying that people try to portray it as such a prolific field.

Science and medicine researchers are the ones actually making a difference in this world. Maybe BME would straddle this line, but thats about it.

 
gopadub:
but i mean our world's infrastructures are based on engineering principles....

That were developed 50 or more years ago... new engineering developments are born in R&D labs and in the imaginations of people like this little kid in 20 years.

Every engineer I know is doing crunching numbers to make sure the chain links on a ship's anchor will hold it in place, determining how much foam to insulate an igloo cooler with or formulating polyurethane for sneaker soles. Absolutely necessary, but not exactly at the cusp of human evolution.

 
laudrup10:
and physicists came up with most of those engineering principles.

See John Bardeen.

Ironically, the Physics department that Bardeen worked in when he developed the integrated circuit was under the College of Engineering. At UIUC, most physics majors- and comp sci majors for that matter- would call themselves engineers.

IMHO, the lines separating the quantitative science disciplines, engineering, and math are all kinda blurry. Regardless, nobody who practices these disciplines gets rich.

 
IlliniProgrammer:
the lines separating quantitative science disciplines, engineering, and math are all kinda blurry
With all due respect, this statement is easily the dumbest and most ignorant thing I've read all month. While it's true that engineering requires basic knowledge of mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology etc., mathematics has absolutely nothing to do with engineering, or any other applied discipline for that matter.
-MBP
 
manbearpig:
With all due respect, this statement is easily the dumbest and most ignorant thing I've read all month. While it's true that engineering requires basic knowledge of mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology etc., mathematics has absolutely nothing to do with engineering, or any other applied discipline for that matter.
Really? What about applied mathematics?
 
manbearpig:
IlliniProgrammer:
the lines separating quantitative science disciplines, engineering, and math are all kinda blurry
With all due respect, this statement is easily the dumbest and most ignorant thing I've read all month. While it's true that engineering requires basic knowledge of mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology etc., mathematics has absolutely nothing to do with engineering, or any other applied discipline for that matter.
Differential equations, in no way, have anything to do with engineering, at all. Interesting.
 
LA_Duc:
manbearpig:
IlliniProgrammer:
the lines separating quantitative science disciplines, engineering, and math are all kinda blurry
With all due respect, this statement is easily the dumbest and most ignorant thing I've read all month. While it's true that engineering requires basic knowledge of mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology etc., mathematics has absolutely nothing to do with engineering, or any other applied discipline for that matter.
Differential equations, in no way, have anything to do with engineering, at all. Interesting.

You all missed my point. Yes, mathematics is absolutely used in engineering. Like I initially mentioned, engineering uses certain simple principles of mathematics. But the purpose of mathematics is far removed from engineering. The purpose of mathematics is only to explore and discover new mathematics. Not to solve problems that can result in technological innovation. Yes, new discoveries in mathematics can ultimately lead to applications later, but that is not the purpose. There was a time when mathematicians were concerned with solving practical problems, but that is no longer the case. By all means, ask anyone who actually knows what they are talking about. They'll agree with me.

-MBP
 
manbearpig:
You all missed my point. Yes, mathematics is absolutely used in engineering. Like I initially mentioned, engineering uses certain simple principles of mathematics. But the purpose of mathematics is far removed from engineering. The purpose of mathematics is only to explore and discover new mathematics. Not to solve problems that can result in technological innovation. Yes, new discoveries in mathematics can ultimately lead to applications later, but that is not the purpose. There was a time when mathematicians were concerned with solving practical problems, but that is no longer the case. By all means, ask anyone who actually knows what they are talking about. They'll agree with me.

Practical problems of engineering, physics, chemistry, etc. are not as clear and straight forward as they were two centuries ago. Math has always been ahead of every other field of study by at least 50 years. What might seem to be extremely unpractical and useless now, will be put too use by engineers in 2050-2070.

 
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manbearpig:
You all missed my point. Yes, mathematics is absolutely used in engineering. Like I initially mentioned, engineering uses certain simple principles of mathematics. But the purpose of mathematics is far removed from engineering. The purpose of mathematics is only to explore and discover new mathematics. Not to solve problems that can result in technological innovation. Yes, new discoveries in mathematics can ultimately lead to applications later, but that is not the purpose. There was a time when mathematicians were concerned with solving practical problems, but that is no longer the case. By all means, ask anyone who actually knows what they are talking about. They'll agree with me.

Practical problems of engineering, physics, chemistry, etc. are not as clear and straight forward as they were two centuries ago. Math has always been ahead of every other field of study by at least 50 years. What might seem to be extremely unpractical and useless now, will be put too use by engineers in 2050-2070.

Ok, let me be painfully obvious now.

Automotive engineers design/build cars. Pizza delivery guys use those cars to do their jobs. Does this mean that the line between automotive engineering and pizza delivery is blurred? Absolutely not. They have nothing to do with eachother, because even though engineers design cars, they are not designed so that people can deliver pizzas in them.

Similarly, mathematicians explore mathematics for the sole purpose of discovering new relationships and connections etc. Yes, one day the discoveries might find practical use, but that is the furthest thing from a mathematicians mind. Which is why I said that engineering and mathematics have absolutely nothing to do with one another.

-MBP
 
manbearpig:
IlliniProgrammer:
the lines separating quantitative science disciplines, engineering, and math are all kinda blurry
With all due respect, this statement is easily the dumbest and most ignorant thing I've read all month. While it's true that engineering requires basic knowledge of mathematics, physics, chemistry, biology etc., mathematics has absolutely nothing to do with engineering, or any other applied discipline for that matter.
this in its essence is true. whilst maths has applications in all disciplines, the use of pure mathematics if to find further mathematical statements and proof.

Also I highly doubt engineering has further developed maths significantly(which is kinda implies by stating that the lines seperating engineering and maths are blurred, unless illini solely meant a oneway relationship).

When I opened this thread I expected it to be full off but he doesnt have social skills so he isnt gonna get laid in college duuude posts, I am actually positively surprised by wso for once.

 

How the fuck do you figure out why Mars' moons are potato shaped at three years old ?

seriously...

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

lol agreed. the big bang thing is pretty laughable. and most of history's best scientists weren't prodigies to the extent that jake is, i.e. early talent does not imply greatness. but good luck to him.

 

If this kid would stop fucking around with such a dead end field he could be an MD by the time he's 17.

Seriously, I do agree with Marcus. I'm glad the kid is happy and having fun, etc. but his brainpower could be put to much better use. My ex-gf who was in med school nearly dropped out because she hated it and was just going to become an accountant or some shit (I think she was just stressed) but truthfully, if the world was perfect and she didn't care about money and status, she should have been in a lab researching cancer or Alzheimer's or something. I think her IQ range was mid 150s and her older sisters was even higher, I think 160s or so...and she went from being a special needs teacher...talk about a waste of resources (no offense to special needs kids)...back to school for a masters in bio-mechanical engineering and did some model for trans-humeral prostheses...which isn't saving the world, but a step in the right direction and is leaps and bounds above getting bit, hit and screamed at on a daily basis.

Regards

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
 
Cartwright:
And he has aspergers...he'll fit in just fine with the many of the posters here.
mehp:
aspergers kids have poor social skills, he will never make it past the superday

I'm sorry, but I just have to comment on this. As someone who actually does have Asperger's and is just starting out in the industry, it saddens me to see people with such a narrow view of the Asperger's spectrum. Michael Burry is a perfect example -- he was able to run a very successful hedge fund for a number of years and interacted successfully with investors on a regular basis. More importantly, he's able to be an amazing father to his young boy (who also has Asperger's) -- perceived "social awkwardness" be damned.

As for the 12 year-old kid -- more power to him. Everyone's got a talent, and it's good to see him actually using his.

 
yourdreamtheater:
Cartwright:
And he has aspergers...he'll fit in just fine with the many of the posters here.
mehp:
aspergers kids have poor social skills, he will never make it past the superday

I'm sorry, but I just have to comment on this. As someone who actually does have Asperger's and is just starting out in the industry, it saddens me to see people with such a narrow view of the Asperger's spectrum. Michael Burry is a perfect example -- he was able to run a very successful hedge fund for a number of years and interacted successfully with investors on a regular basis. More importantly, he's able to be an amazing father to his young boy (who also has Asperger's) -- perceived "social awkwardness" be damned.

As for the 12 year-old kid -- more power to him. Everyone's got a talent, and it's good to see him actually using his.

sperg pride my brother

 

Should I be jealous? I mean, it'd be awesome to be that smart, but it's still got it's cons.

If your dreams don't scare you, then they are not big enough. "There are two types of people in this world: People who say they pee in the shower, and dirty fucking liars."-Louis C.K.
 

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