Analyst total comp in 09

So what do you guys think will be the total comp for 1st year analysts at the top banks this year? Here is my estimate (based on both facts and rumours):

sign-on: 5
base: 50
bonus: 30

TOTAL: 85k USD

Happy to hear other numbers + reasoning.

 

Signing: 10k Base: 65k Bonus: 5k Total: 80k Total

Sign-on can't decrease significantly as it is usually tied in with the relocation bonus and people need a boost for apartment/car. Bases will increase if anything whereas bonuses will be shot to hell. This will be their way of "equalizing" things for a while.

 
juniorr:
Signing: 10k Base: 65k Bonus: 5k Total: 80k Total

Sign-on can't decrease significantly as it is usually tied in with the relocation bonus and people need a boost for apartment/car. Bases will increase if anything whereas bonuses will be shot to hell. This will be their way of "equalizing" things for a while.

Much more reasonable.

 
alcman:
So what do you guys think will be the total comp for 1st year analysts at the top banks this year? Here is my estimate (based on both facts and rumours):

sign-on: 5 base: 50 bonus: 30

TOTAL: 85k USD

Happy to hear other numbers + reasoning.

who told you that a first year in IBD was getting a 50K base? was the bank Citi?

I heard something along those lines too regarding a base salary but thought it was for something in the back office.

The world has changed. And we must change with it.

------------ I'm making it up as I go along.
 

like citi and bofa/mer getting 0-10K bonuses, but why would analysts at banks like evercore and greenhill get such bonuses?

At the boutiques with restructuring practices that spread revenue over both groups, top analysts in both (even tho M&A was gone) got 70K last year.

How could they justify going to 0-10 even tho they are still getting advisory work and no tarp funds

 
TeldarPaper:
like citi and bofa/mer getting 0-10K bonuses, but why would analysts at banks like evercore and greenhill get such bonuses?

At the boutiques with restructuring practices that spread revenue over both groups, top analysts in both (even tho M&A was gone) got 70K last year.

How could they justify going to 0-10 even tho they are still getting advisory work and no tarp funds

could someone familiar with the matter comment on this

 
jimbrowngoU:
Why was a 1st year analyst getting a bonus in February?
Never asked my friend why they were giving out bonus to 1st year in Feb... But that's what she told me... She got 30K and some very senior ppl in the firm asked the analysts not to spend every penny this year because it is likely to be none on next year's bonus day...

Also, some larger banks, like BarCap before Lehman acquisition, also give out bonus in Feb. But they do not used to have a very structured two-year program..

 

It could be that some places (such as smaller boutiques) do not do typical two-year programs, but hire analysts to stay and eventually become associates. Therefore, they will pay a stub bonus after half a year (in February) so that analysts are on par with the rest of the bank that gets bonuses at year end.

I am not sure if this is the case here, but if it is then $30K would be a pretty hefty stub, although when you take into account that you are not getting anything next year then not so much.

 
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stk123:
It could be that some places (such as smaller boutiques) do not do typical two-year programs, but hire analysts to stay and eventually become associates. Therefore, they will pay a stub bonus after half a year (in February) so that analysts are on par with the rest of the bank that gets bonuses at year end.

I am not sure if this is the case here, but if it is then $30K would be a pretty hefty stub, although when you take into account that you are not getting anything next year then not so much.

Only thing here is that it's a boutique like Sandler, KBW, or Cowen, and all three of those places have pretty structured analyst programs. Can't see any of those places paying stubs to first years.

 
jimbrowngoU:
stk123:
It could be that some places (such as smaller boutiques) do not do typical two-year programs, but hire analysts to stay and eventually become associates. Therefore, they will pay a stub bonus after half a year (in February) so that analysts are on par with the rest of the bank that gets bonuses at year end.

I am not sure if this is the case here, but if it is then $30K would be a pretty hefty stub, although when you take into account that you are not getting anything next year then not so much.

Only thing here is that it's a boutique like Sandler, KBW, or Cowen, and all three of those places have pretty structured analyst programs. Can't see any of those places paying stubs to first years.

Not sure how the other two boutiques run their analysts program, but the one that my friend works for, according to her, does not have a very structured analyst program at all.
 

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