So I am studying for the ARGUS Certification and feel good about 2 out of the 4 case studies. The last two in the book are a little challenging but am getting help from ARGUS in reference to my mistakes. My questions are:
1) Are the MC Questions similar or even word for word the same as in the University Certificate book?
2)For the modeling portion how complicated do the models get? Are there a few curve balls which you may not have learned in the book previous? It seems each case study I do has 1 or 2 more curve balls which make you think.
3) For the model do they have mixed use properties or are they simply retail or office? How in depth do they go.
Thanks for the time guys.
Anyone have advice?
Does anyone have any AE specific advice on how the test actually is?
I got DCF (the old version) certified and remember almost failing the test because it had almost nothing to do with how you actually model in Argus, which I was quite good at for a beginner, and everything to do with regurgitating irrelevant factoids from the study guide.
AE may be different, so I don't want to give bad advice, but if it's the same type of thing I would study the guide front to back a couple times.
Have not taken the certification, but went to the training. My instructor told us that a lot of it will be from the guide, and the sample questions didn't seem like things anyone would know from using the program.
Same regurgitation - analysts are just as clueless coming in certified/pissed upon realization that they studied for nothing as they were in DCF days. I don't know anyone who's taken both, but I've been told the pass rate is higher so it's even more regurgitation from study guide.
This will be an unpopular hot take, but I know I'm not the only one in I-sales that feels this way. Anyway, does anyone interview harder on the kids who got certified prior? There's nothing worse than the "this is how i was taught" response when shit goes wrong, and the only ones who say it are the certified ones. I know our associates tee off the second they see it on a resume - i know i did...
AE is completely different. Nigh unrecognizable.. which is crazy b/c all the fundamentals are exactly the same.. It's just presented in the most asinine and complicated way.. I'd say if you know DCF well it'd probably take ~2mths to get basic AE down... having said that, some new advanced AE functionality is actually pretty helpful (e.g. portfolio modeling is completely revamped and super-useful; scenario modeling - which lets you do macro stressers to certain assumptions - is a nice new feature). I provide cheap training btw ($100 for 5hrs of vids, $50/hr for one-on-one)
I downloaded the training manual and did the whole thing. Also got the case study book that had 14 of them (has that changed?) and went through each one. Aced the test.
To pay it forward, I passed the certification.
Almost all the exam questions are similar to the ones in the University Certification package, however there are a lot more of them. I had to google search a lot of them but I found it easy to answer above 70%.
However, it's quite easy to fail the model portion of the test. One simple number or issue with the market leasing profile can throw it all off (office vs retail). That was the issue that I had and it took me 7 minutes to figure out why my revenue was off (a costly mistake in a timed test). Make sure to do as many case studies as possible as I found the biggest issues for me to be the general vacancy override for a specific tenant, minor mistakes with the market leasing portion, expense recovery small errors.
I found it wasn't so much an issue of not knowing how to pass the model but mistakenly typing the wrong number or clicking the wrong button. A one second mistake can make you fail the entire portion.
you should dig this thread out in two years and let us know if you think the certification was worth it. I took the certification class at their conference three or four ago but didn’t get much value out of it since I was already using enterprise daily. it would be interesting to know if it helps you get a job.
Anyone know if the Argus Enterprise Bundle for $1350 includes the test? I've had people who take it say to make sure you download the test too and according to the website the test seems to be another $350 on it's own - seems pretty ridiculous. Also, I've heard of getting a student discount, say I'm out of school but still have access to my school email. Does using that give me some sort of discount? If I'm being honest $1350 is a lot of money and was hoping there's some sort of discount for the certification.
It includes the test, but if you don't pass the test the first go around you have to shell out $350 to retake it.
The AE bundle ($1,250) includes access to the certification test as well as training/practice test.
You should definitely try and email Argus through your student email for the discount.
If your school/friends/work has access to the software I’d recommend self studying through the manual (you can find it for free or ask someone nicely) because AE is actually super easy to learn and then you’d only have to pay $200 to take the certification.
Hi all - I provide Argus Enterprise (AE) training in either vid form ($100 for every 5hours of videos) or one-on-one ($50/hr). I work in the industry in acquisitions for 5+ years and the focus of the training is getting you up and running and able to build a CF soup-to-nuts, as well as audit Brokers' Argus models. Glad to discuss in greater detail... I'm best on email at industrytrainingla at gmail dot com, or PM me and I'll give you my phone number. Looking forward to connecting soon.
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