Aspiring monkey Emails MS CEO And Gets Some Harsh Advice
http://www.businessinsider.com/james-gorman-morga…
Don't piss off the CEO of Morgan Stanley!
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I'm actually surprised he bothered to answer
I give the kid A for effort, C- for brains, but in the end it's BALLS that make the man.
i always laugh when i say "T. Boone Pickens"
Reminds me of Buffett and how he harassed Ben Graham for two years before Graham gave him a job at his firm/how Buffett went to Geico's headquarters on a Saturday and knocked on the door until a janitor let him in and then went and talked to a VP there for a while. Guys got spunk, though he was probably a bit too over the top going after a CEO at a large firm - Id say that itd be fine for boutiques and some MM firms though..
he is ambitious, actually that is how I got my PE internship during my school year and a Corp Dev internship at a Tech firm in SF in this coming summer (I am a freshman) I go to a non-target.
The PE guy i first called 10 times before he answered. Then he responded with what the hell do you want? I am like could you please consider me for an internship. I called him again to tell him that I sent it, and he responds with yea, sorry I wont look at it ( i am too young). Well I emailed my resume like 5 times a week for the next 3 weeks, and he was finally ok ill give you a shot because of your persistance, and now he loves me!!!
That reads like a lie. Do you lie Ambition?
VP: "That shit is ridiculous. Its so transparent. If you called me everyday for a month, it doesn't show you're persistent, it shows you don't know how to best utilize your time. If I ever do answer, its going to be because I'm sick of you making my phone ring, not because I'm impressed."
idk senior monkey, I mean if i didnt actually get all this how am I a certified user? Is it too good to be true? Naaa i am trying to get IBD this summer, and actually landed this so I am cool with it (unless some of my connections can help me land a gig).
You dont know me (even though the star is proof that i am not a fake), so you can believe whatever you would like. I dont come on this site to write bullshit, or accuse people of lying for that matter, so I can claim that I do not lie on this website. Since I am wasting time attempting to win your trust, I will say screw u! XD
Alright, enough is enough Ambition, we need to have a talk:
For starters, we definitely believe you got a couple solid internships and are proud of you for it man, it's always great to see the younger WSO members succeed. HOWEVER, your continual insistence to bring the fact up so inorganically in 60%+ of threads you post in does nothing but lead us to doubt its true value.
In regards to your status as a certified user and the quality of your content, you will find no vindication from me. You are only certified because you have learned to game the system. You are not a working professional, you are a student and an intern. Though you may be highly skilled at both of the latter roles mentioned, you are not yet qualified to give an opinion from the perspective you seek to imply (with your star). Furthermore, though almost certainly unintentional, your content contains very frequent factual inaccuracies, the most glaring of which was when you wrongly attempted to correct me regarding specifics about my own firm! [Also, two side notes: 1.) Wharton SF isn't a target school, it's an executive mba program with the singular purpose of padding the Penn endowment and 2.) the Mission is a shithole, man.]
Look, we appreciate the contributions, but if every regular user here became certified because of their internships, then the whole certified/star system would lose its meaning entirely. You're a good regular to have on the site, but you have to wait it out and earn your star like the rest of us; there are other users with more experience and of a better quality, that have been here longer and give better advice, that haven't earned the star themselves (cough cough). You'll get there one day, but it isn't today.
What are you talking about? Senior monkey? It seems like you place too much credence to an online forum. And I dont know you but I can see a lie anywhere. Your story is far too convenient.
well happy i am not complaining.
Calling the CEO of a hugh bank is stupid, but a small PE fund in Ohio..... He actually told me afterwards that he was just testing me to see if I really wanted it. This happened with me when I worked in Kroger as a bagger the manager wanted us to call them 5-10 times to see if we really wanted it..... honestly would you want to hire someone that gives up on something he/she wants badly.... that sounds like a shitty employee.
It was risky cuz he sould have been pissed off at me. (which he was) but I proved that I could be a nice asset (since I do go to the largest school in the nation, and could help him get connected with some of our business school's deans) and then he decided to let me on and now we are good friends we are running Capital City half marathon togther (training for it too)
University of Phoenix?
Its disconcerting that certified user on this site is a freshman.
The largest student body goes to Ohio State my friend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_colleges_and_univers…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_United_States_university_c…
Looks like #13 or 3. Just saying. Still, thats a lot bigger than my school, and we were still in the 5 digits.
^^^Extremely. I'm sure he just forgot to mention that his internship with the PE firm was completely unpaid and he only worked about 20 hours a week doing useless tasks around the office.
What does age have to do with success? I was a director in business dev for a startup supply chain company in high school (The owner told me he was offered around 15 mil by amazon for it now). I have knowledge on how to get a PE/VC internship, and a Corp dev one in silicon valley.
Are you calling Mark Zuck less of a success than Lloyd Blankfein? If you are, then it you fault you are ageist sir.
I am not saying that I am worthy of praise or anything, because infact I have a shit ton to learn about getting in IBD (which is why i love this website XD), but I have some understanding on how to get internships/respect as an underclassman, and I like to contribute by helping others out like me. Now if that is a huge problem than I might not suggest anything to anyone. I earn everything I recieve and I think I have earned the right to help out some other freshman. What you say Bernankey?
And now you go to Ohio State. Right.
Another gem: http://dealbreaker.com/2010/01/prospective-goldman-intern-will-fight-to…
Prospective Goldman Intern Will Fight To The Death For GS
Ok Nouveau Richie, seems fair.
joe ill PM u.
lol ambition managed to finally lose his star. womp womp
Really? Like a star in an anonymous messages board matters to anyone.
Haha bernankey yes I did XD. My badge was stripped from me
We have some dick crying about a girl on another thread and some other douche crying about some bullshit star on another. Gotta love the internet. Ambition, I've read some of your posts, and somehow your stories/experiences always illustrate you as that guy who has to always top someone else's story. Its so contrived man, give it up.
I dont see the benefits of having that persistent attitude. In theory it sounds good and when you're calling/writing, you're psyching yourself up thinking it is the right thing to do, however, how many genuine success stories have there been?
When I was an undergrad, I was desperate to find an internship and I managed initial contact over the phone with the HR manager of an elite law firm. She wanted me to come in for an interview but for whatever reason she cancelled it. I kept persisting and first my emails were ignored, and if on the odd chance she replies, we arrange a meeting but she didnt turn up. This happened twice.
I am not crying about a star lol, I now understand that it was ment for FT people, so I was agreeing with WSO to take it away. simple as that. I applied for it, Pat read my experiences and the next thing you u I got a star.
I agree with you about not being persistant all the time, but I took a risk. Is that too hard to believe?
Sorry if I come across as that, but all I am attempting to do is give, back so I am sorry If I have come as a douche to you or other WSO members. Honestly that is the last thing I want people to think of me.
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