Baruch vs IU Kelley?
Hi guys! I was wondering for some advice regarding where to go to for a job in NYC? Thank you guys so much!
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IU Kelley, especially if you get into their prestigious IB Workshop. If you don't, it's still possible to break in.
Baruch because you can network on your own fairly easily on LinkedIn. Can physically go meet people for coffee. If (when) you don't get into the workshop at Kelley, now you're in the middle of the fuckin corn fields with your dick in your hand trying to network with alums in NYC who are all from Indiana and who were all in the workshop. As such, they'll favor those kids.
Be prepared for a ton of politics at IU Kelley. It is dominated by Greek life. The students actually determine who gets into the workshop and who doesn't. They also pass down exams with answers for the class to their underclassmen buddies. Another "factor" in justifying who gets in and who doesn't. The sharpest kid in our class by a mile didn't get in versus a ton of greek life "bro" morons that will make 10x worse analysts than him. Seriously the kid was a savant it was like having a fucking partner at KPMG in the class. Totally normal dude, just a true finance nerd. Didn't get in cuz he wasnt from Indiana or greek or whatever bullshit.
Your best bet is to join beta or AKpsi or something. Non-greek, international, transfer, not from Indiana - forget it you're not getting in.
Bonus for IU: there are fuck ton of hot blondes here. If you slay you might decide you wanna work in marketing after all :)
Agreed, risk/reward for IU just doesn't seem remotely worth it especially considering the location of baruch in proximity to the city and the fact that you have to get into some "workshop" makes me believe it is a complete joke if you aren't in it and not even in the same breath for recruiting/networking opportunities.
I never really understood why programs like that are even allowed instead of doing honours vs non honour students like UT. At least the non honour students can join the finance/ investment club & still be able to have good prospects once graduating. If you want to risk your future for some club then its your decision but i rather be risk adverse and have at least an equal chance as other students to fight for the spot.
There's honors and non-honors at IU as well, but unfortunately, that isn't meritocratic as well. As the faculty place more emphasis on "building a class", than just taking the smartest kids. So there's kids with 4.0s and presidents of clubs who don't graduate with Honors.
Pretty accurate. It doesn't matter how "qualified" you are, the process to get into the workshop is a shit show and there is a high chance you won't get in. And if you don't get in, it's essentially 0% chance you will get into IB. I think in my year, only 2 people outside of the workshop from the entire school got into IB - they networked their ass off and it was a significant uphill battle.
So then do the majority of non workshop grads just become accountants or finance analyst for a f500 company and then attempt to transition into IB after b school or does the non workshop title still make it difficult even post grad?
That cannot be accurate given who from the workshop have randomly reached out to my firm (we recruit at IU for non-NYC offices). None of the inbound kids are "frat bros" and a large amount seem foreign-born.
Indiana is a factory that trains and sends a ton of kids into IB. Although, because it’s a giant school, there’s over 100 kids with 3.7+ GPA that know the technicals and want to do banking. So unless your female or diversity, it becomes a game of who you know and and the image you project.
If I had to choose, I would go to IU. Network really hard and enjoy your 4 years.
IU is getting kind of shit on here because there’s a lot of competition but almost every bank recruits there and there is an established pipeline to Wall St. Indiana sends more kids to EBs and MMs than most semi-targets every year. If you’re sociable and smart, you can do well.
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