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May 14, 2009

silly question

its good compared to other schools, but not as good compared to HBS/Wharton

i'd say Kellogg/Chicago have better consulting recruiting

depends on which office you want to go too

May 14, 2009

1) No idea
2) No. I had low UG GPA and similar GMAT and did fine in consulting recruiting

May 14, 2009

Tons and tons of CBS MBAs go to MBB.

May 14, 2009

Rising 2nd year at CBS and there are loads of students going into consulting.

May 14, 2009

Don't quote me on this but I think their biggest employer last year was McKinsey

May 14, 2009

Heard at Wharton consulting recruiting was more competitive than banking. Basically everyone wants to do consulting out of business school now. Might be the same at Columbia, who knows.

May 14, 2009

Interesting. So especially if its become pretty competitive, how much will a low UG GPA hold me back?

May 14, 2009

From what I have seen, firms look at GMAT,
But not undergrad GPA. They may look at your MBA grades though.

May 14, 2009

before jumping into the conclusion that x,y,z, mba program places a 'ton' of its grads into MBB consulting:

1) lots of students at M7 MBA were MBB analysts who are sponsored by MBB to attend MBA, meaning they have an offer waiting come MBA graduation -> this inflates MBB placement stats for MBA

2) lots of students at M7 MBA land at MBB shops overseas, such as Asia. these are mostly international students who couldn't crack an offer in the U.S. and going back to their home countries. -> this also inflates the 'true' MBB placement stats for MBA

Edit: my friend at Columbia MBA told me about the two above rather important considerations. His claim that M7 MBA career 'stats' are vastly flawed and hence shouldn't be taken at face value.

May 14, 2009
IvyGrad:

before jumping into the conclusion that x,y,z, mba program places a 'ton' of its grads into MBB consulting:

1) lots of students at M7 MBA were MBB analysts who are sponsored by MBB to attend MBA, meaning they have an offer waiting come MBA graduation -> this inflates MBB placement stats for MBA

2) lots of students at M7 MBA land at MBB shops overseas, such as Asia. these are mostly international students who couldn't crack an offer in the U.S. and going back to their home countries. -> this also inflates the 'true' MBB placement stats for MBA

Edit: my friend at Columbia MBA told me about the two above rather important considerations. His claim that M7 MBA career 'stats' are vastly flawed and hence shouldn't be taken at face value.

Columbia publishes the data on new hires vs. sponsored students: http://www7.gsb.columbia.edu/recruiters/sites/defa...

McKinsey New: 33
McKinsey Spon: 27

Bain New: 13
Bain Sponsored: 11

BCG New: 10
BCG Spon: 12

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May 14, 2009

How did you determine a school is your #1 choice if you're not sure if it will put you at a disadvantage for your target industry?

Anyway, you'll be fine if you go to CBS. Plenty of MBB recruiting, as well as 2nd tier and smaller shops.

May 14, 2009

I think what we really need to know is what other schools you are applying to. Will you be at a disadvantage vs GSB/HBS? ..probably but that is irrelevant if you didn't apply there.

May 14, 2009
AnalyzeThat:

I think what we really need to know is what other schools you are applying to. Will you be at a disadvantage vs GSB/HBS? ..probably but that is irrelevant if you didn't apply there.

I remember seeing a post from an engagement manager from BCG on this forum a long time ago, and he/she stated that the firm typically grants first-round interviews to all of the applicants from GSB/HBS.

Now, 56 students from CBS got new FT offers to MBB. The class size is about 740, and if we say half the class applied to MBB (a very accurate assumption, I know) then about 15% of the applicants ended up getting an offer. I'm not sure what sort of % applicants from GSB/HBS ultimately land an offer.

May 14, 2009

^

33 new hires for McK includes both international and domestic offers. I've heard this numerous times from my MBA buddy at Columbia that many Asian or European students at MBA fail to land a gig in the U.S. and head back to their home countries and get MBB offers in their country. These numbers are definitely included in that 33 new hire figure for McK, so tread carefully. (I've heard that a bunch of Asian students end up with MBB in Shanghai, Seoul, Tokyo, type of MBB offices)

Unless you speak the native language in those Asian countries AND want to live in those countries, you should discount these MBB offers off the 33 new hire figure. At any rate, who would want to work at MBB Asia over MBB U.S.? (I've heard MBB Asian offices pay lower than U.S. offices and hours are 30-40% worse than U.S. -> it's crap)

FWIW, it's a lot harder to get MBB in U.S. compared to Europe or Asia. I've heard that getting MBB in Europe is equivalent to getting ACN or Deloitte U.S. in terms of sheer competition and difficulty, but I could be wrong here.

May 14, 2009
IvyGrad:

^

33 new hires for McK includes both international and domestic offers. I've heard this numerous times from my MBA buddy at Columbia that many Asian or European students at MBA fail to land a gig in the U.S. and head back to their home countries and get MBB offers in their country. These numbers are definitely included in that 33 new hire figure for McK, so tread carefully. (I've heard that a bunch of Asian students end up with MBB in Shanghai, Seoul, Tokyo, type of MBB offices)

Unless you speak the native language in those Asian countries AND want to live in those countries, you should discount these MBB offers off the 33 new hire figure. At any rate, who would want to work at MBB Asia over MBB U.S.? (I've heard MBB Asian offices pay lower than U.S. offices and hours are 30-40% worse than U.S. -> it's crap)

FWIW, it's a lot harder to get MBB in U.S. compared to Europe or Asia. I've heard that getting MBB in Europe is equivalent to getting ACN or Deloitte U.S. in terms of sheer competition and difficulty, but I could be wrong here.

I went through MBB recruiting a few years back, and my memory might not be serving me right, but don't these firms have global recruiting model? So you only get to apply to one country? (then pick the office preference?) If a person went for the U.S. office recruiting and didn't get an offer, that person is not going to be eligible to apply to another Asian / European office, even if the recruiting season takes place at a later date, right?

I know a handful of classmates who ended up working at MBB overseas (Europe and Asia) and I doubt they tried to work in the U.S. office first.. they mostly went back to the country where they grew up, to raise kids etc.

May 14, 2009

its ok

May 14, 2009
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