Entry level trading position?

Currently I work as a credit analyst at a small bank. In a few months, I would like to make a jump to something a little more prestigious. I am trying to research the different areas that might interest me, and trading has caught my eye. Could someone answer these questions?

My friend works at a proprietary trading company. He says the entry level position there is a Trader Assistant, and after a few years at that, you will start to actually trade. Is that the way it is for most firms?

Would an entry level position be real hard to get? I am a year out from a top 10 business school and graduated with a 3.8 in Finance. Would I need to get an internship before a full time job?

How good does the CFA look when applying? Is it something that is looked favorably upon (like in Equity Research) or doesn't matter much (like in Investment Banking)?

What are the exit opportunities?

What are typical hours like? Weekends?

If my goal was to get hired in 6 or 7 months, what could I do in between now and then to improve my chances?

 
Best Response

1) CFA will help if you fail as a proprietary trader...then you can take a shot at becoming a Portfolio Manager. 2) The steps that I would take over the next 7 months would be to try to invest in the markets if you can. Sign up for www.theflyonthewall.com. It is worth the $25 a month. Briefing.com is also another site but it is not worth the $40ish when we used to get it for $10 back in the day. Try to take your shot at opening up a few demo - simulator trading accounts so that you can take a shot at trading while paying attention to the news. If your work as a credit analyst and they do not allow you that time to trade during the day...then take a gander at forex and futures trading. Oanda happens to have a prop acct demo that does not expire and you can practice different strategies during the night - etc. These markets are open 23 hours. 3) Once you've got about 3 months of demo trading underneath you. If you can afford a $5k forex acct or be able to deposit $5k at Interactive Brokers - take a shot at some options. 4) Take a chart class or at least get some books on varying chart systems and methodologies.
5) Always trade with the momentum (go with the flow).
6) Weekends - you do a little research - read Barron's...go through chartbooks...but there isn't that much overtime. 7) Exit Strategy - if you are a good trader - you won't need one.
8) If you get the chance to work as an asst trader - 1 year is the norm...unless it's for SAC Capital...then I'd work as an asst until they gave you monies to run and just wait your turn.

Trading will give you all of the financial independence that you will need if you can become good at it. Good luck.

 

^ post above is really solid. short answer:

1) Yes most start as TA's. 2) Really depends on where you want to work, and your skills/interests/luck 3) No. 4) It doesn't matter 5) No exit ops. 6) 40-50 hrs/week. no weekends 7) do everything the guy above said.

 

Aside from Oanda for FX, what are some sites where i can trade live feeds in a demo acc for a small cost?

edit- i see that IB has a demo that you can dl but it simulates market activity for you, im interested in trading in a live feed

 

Wow. Thanks for your helpful input, CLGCTrader.

I think I'm in a slightly different position from job71188, as I'm still a junior at school and haven't had a full-time analyst position as of yet. But I found the steps you described to be very constructive, and would like to do the same thing pretty soon.

Now my question is, will prop trading companies or boutique firms be more favorable to me for an internship/FT offer if I had that on my resume?

 

Solid TA is way to go. and yup if your resume shows some of your trading skills, they are definitely a plus point. even so, if you do get a chance to network with traders, you can speak their lingo.. not just stare at them blankly when they start talking about volatility VARs stuffs like that (happened to me once, but I managed to mask it)

 

Has been covered. I answered a similar question maybe two weeks ago. Do a search.

"Greed, in all of its forms; greed for life, for money, for love, for knowledge has marked the upward surge of mankind. And greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA."
 

if you have the appetite for it, go get an MBA. It is your best bet. Otherwise it would be a series of hoping for a door to open, or really pounding your resume at a million different people.

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