Social frats in banking
I realized from reading different threads on different schools that DSP and AKPsi place well into banking.
However, I was wondering what social frats place well into banking as well? I goto a state school and I am looking to rush in the fall semester and was wondering which social frat has the largest national alumni base in banking.
Not sure which ones have the most, but I’m at a state school and joined a social frat and highly recommend it from a social skills perspective. A decent number of bankers saw that I was involved with it and they reflected upon their debauchery while in college. You can’t go wrong, unless you join a frat that interferes with your academics. Good luck.
May I ask which one did you join?
It is a lesser known one...all of the big names are currently kicked off/on their way to being kicked off of campus as things have recently gotten ugly.
BBB
To be honest I always assumed regular Greek life was better for this than business frats. It helped me connect with some alums, whereas business feats didn’t seem as closely knit so I assumed alums wouldn’t really go to bat for them, but could be wrong. They just seemed like an annoying work-oriented circle jerk. Not that Greek life wasn't sometimes as well, but at least there were 30 racks involved.
Could not agree with this more. I looked into the business fraternities and decided they would not add any value in my personal situation.
What others have mentioned too.
Business fraternities to me always seemed like a bunch of hardos trying to one up each other with internships etc. when in a social frat you make actual friends and have a good time
Doesn't really matter but I heard Pike has some presence
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in both a business frat and a regular fraternity at a west coast school (Berkeley/USC/UCLA). in my experience, social fraternity did not help whatsoever for recruiting, we just never focus on/really talk about career at all. that being said, was the best decision i made in college... dumb lit and have made unforgettable memories/friends that will last a lifetime. Bizfrat, on other hand, was completely instrumental to recruiting and landing an offer for me... access to older experienced kids who know the banking landscape/timelines and are willing to mock/teach you when you know nothing. totally different communities but very grateful to be a part of both! One thing I will say is for me personally, The bizfrat helped tremendously in my recruiting experience but there are tons of kids not in business frats who have their own connections and recruit fine.
I second this. Business frat helped tremendously. Go for both if you want the widest network possible.
is both manageable?
SAE crushes it in the south
I'm almost done with IB recruiting hopefully, but would you say being in a frat can help PE recruiting?
Cringe
bark bark bark bark
Sigma Chi > SAE
Can’t say a social fraternity helped in any way in terms of getting a job or breaking in. You have to remember that many times people hate fraternity guys so I tended to not disclose it. Also in general by junior/senior year you lose some of that newness and connection of being in a fraternity and weren’t going around throwing the grip at interviews and asking what frat they were in.
That’s said, highly recommended just to develop social skills that certainly help
Agreed, great advice.
Sigma Chi is the best house in the country
PCT forever
Everyone I knew in PCT was an utter dick. Hate that frat. MS me all you want.
PCT sucked at my school too.
DKE easily for specifically finance
In Hoc Signo Vinces
Berkeley DSP -> GS TMT SF every time
Don't join a frat just because you want to network for a job. Join because you appreciate the brotherhood and want to have fun with the guys. The best part of a fraternity is that it's a separate life from the academics or clubs you might be involved in.
A kid came to a rush event we had and tried to talk to kids about finance. Did not get a bid.
Like anyone arguing which house or fraternity is the best likely just finished freshman year and are still entrenched in that hype. I get it, I was there. But it loses its appeal when you realize how ridiculous it truly is to pit yourself against other fraternities
Couldn't agree more.
rush pike!!!
Different chapters of the same fraternity/sorority aren’t that similar and people from one school’s chapter are usually completely different from another. Still in college, but I’d rather talk to or connect with someone from my school and a different greek house than someone from a random college but we wore the same letters when we drank and did dumb shit. Just join the house with the guys you like being around. Great experience though, just don’t join a house for networking.
Business frats aren’t big at my school but investment groups or student funds are huge. They manage real money and teach all the valution models and the technicals you need for IB/ER. Almost every school in Pac12/SEC/Big10 has them. If you’re in a school’s investment group and a find an alumni from that exact same group they’re really helpful, especially for non-targets. My last internship, me and another guy instantly hit it off when we found out we were both in investment groups at our schools.
there is no such thing as social frats. make real friends. get a life.
Someone didn't get a bid...
You shouldn't join a frat for business connections. Do it to meet people you want to be friends with for the rest of your life.
Also partying
Rush Alpha Phi :)
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GDI has a big presence in banking...
If you are rushing a frat for connections to banking...you probably arent going to get into a frat with good connections to banking
Don’t understate the direct correlation of the strength of the chapter you were in with group placement. southern chapters of SAE/DKE/Sigma chi will almost guarantee a placement in a top BB group like PJT RX/ MS M&A/GS TMT. If you were in more a middle tier chapter you will be relegated to the likes of RBC/MM banks/second tier groups.
Lol
It's fraternity, not frat. GDIs have invaded this thread.
For my school personally, AKPsi seemed like a bunch of wannabes that had no idea what they're really doing + they seemed like they were not social enough for a normal frat. DSP looked a lot better but to be honest they basically only accepted those students that were almost guaranteed to get a good job anyways (boosting their prestige while not helping anyone.)
gstdp
I didn't join a fraternity but a bunch of my best friends from college were all in the same one, and I always had fun over there. Seeing a frat on someone's resume doesn't really do much for me and it doesn't really matter which one (probably better if I recognize it?), but it does tell me that at the bare minimum the kid likes to drink and have fun, and we would probably get along at least on that point. Just my honest opinion.
Joining a social frat was probably one of the best decisions for me, helped curb my awkwardness.
Helped with networking as well, as I learned to stop being an awkward fuck
Agree
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