Help me pick my undergrad- U Mich, Boston College, Pitt, & Others

Not sure if this is the best place to post this, but I'm going for it.

I need to make a college decision by May first and I'm pretty damn lost. Right now, my options are U Mich, Boston College, and Pitt. Additionally, I was wait listed at UVA and UNC (Rejected from Duke, Northwestern, and Georgetown). Any thoughts on this? I feel like UNC would be the best overall fit because of the combo of the academics, weather/campus, girls, sports, etc. but it's still a crapshoot as far as getting accepted off of the waitlist. I'm certainly considering, but not set on a career in finance; either way it's something I need to keep in mind when selecting a school.

Another option I'm entertaining would be to transfer after a year or two to somewhere more selective. I have almost a 4.0 unweighted GPA (one B)/4.7 weighted, 2240 SAT I and 800 Math II/740 Literature SAT IIs so I should be at least competitive if I choose to go that route, presuming I do very well my first year or two.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

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Apr 10, 2012 - 11:54pm

UMich hands down.

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.
Apr 11, 2012 - 12:57am

I'm a Mich alum.
Most people consider Ross a target. From a recruiting standpoint, it's in a totally different league from BC and Pitt...

Firms that recruit at Ross:

All BBs (IBD NY; Chicago office only for one, I think), most elite boutiques (Rothschild, Moelis, Evercore, Centerview, Blackstone), shitload of MM firms and other boutiques (all over, not just midwest), DE Shaw, DRW, Blackrock, all reputable consulting firms (MBB included). I think Citadel has postings, as well.

Social life is decent, sports teams are good enough. Weather sucks in general, but September in Ann Arbor is heaven. Also, the engineering school is great, if that's your thing.

UNC's a great school. If you like the campus as much as you say you do, then you should probably go with it, if you get put off waitlist.

Apr 11, 2012 - 2:51am
MagicKarp:
I'm a Mich alum.
Most people consider Ross a target. From a recruiting standpoint, it's in a totally different league from BC and Pitt...

Firms that recruit at Ross:

All BBs (IBD NY; Chicago office only for one, I think), most elite boutiques (Rothschild, Moelis, Evercore, Centerview, Blackstone), shitload of MM firms and other boutiques (all over, not just midwest), DE Shaw, DRW, Blackrock, all reputable consulting firms (MBB included). I think Citadel has postings, as well.

Social life is decent, sports teams are good enough. Weather sucks in general, but September in Ann Arbor is heaven. Also, the engineering school is great, if that's your thing.

UNC's a great school. If you like the campus as much as you say you do, then you should probably go with it, if you get put off waitlist.

Note: ML doesn't recruit at Michigan. Additionally, DE Shaw really doesn't seem to take business kids because their math is usually rather mediocre, but they do recruit. Albeit sparingly. Surprisingly, DRW seems pretty consistent.

Apr 11, 2012 - 1:14am

Just be aware the cultures at UMich and UNC are completely different. It's definitely possible to fit in at both places, but UNC is a southern school whereas UMich students are more liberal and northern.

Also, Michigan probably has better recruiting but the weather sucks.

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Apr 11, 2012 - 2:53am

Both good schools, can't go wrong.

UNC places VERY well into Charlotte (WF, BAML especially). Can't overstate this. UNC and Duke are, by far, the most common schools represented. Some Emory, and Ivies, but those two basically own the town, banking-wise. Not sure how well they do in NY, but I assume there are alumni on the street who would be happy to help you out if you do the leg-work.

UMich is definitely a target. Other commenters have said more than I can about it.

Apr 11, 2012 - 10:19am

Umich for sure from where you are IN.

I would do UNC or UVA if you get off the waitlist though. Better recruiting, better girls, better life.

Flying Higher and Higher
Apr 11, 2012 - 5:38pm

Seriously pick the best fit for you personally. Based on the fact that you're currently on this site I'm guessing you are pretty interested in getting a good finance job, so try and gain a little knowledge on business school life of those schools.

Apr 11, 2012 - 8:45pm

Thanks for the input everyone. From what I understand, U Mich will be by far my best bet as far as recruiting goes (probably on par with UVA), followed by UNC, and then of course BC and Pitt (very little, if any). Although I'm not necessarily going to be accepted at UVA or UNC.

My main issues with U Mich are the weather and girls (idk maybe i should be more focused on my career lol, but whatever). I guess there are so many people though it shouldn't be too difficult to find good looking women. I visited and it was nice but I wasn't blown away. Again, I really loved UNC; it just felt right. I may be able to hedge my bets a little bit by going where ever I decide, even if that's not Michigan, and then trying to transfer if I feel like I need better recruiting/resources to break into banking. How difficult would it be to transfer to an ivy (or some relative equivalent) after a year or two? I hear Penn has decent rates.

Apr 12, 2012 - 1:36pm
billmax:
Thanks for the input everyone. From what I understand, U Mich will be by far my best bet as far as recruiting goes (probably on par with UVA), followed by UNC, and then of course BC and Pitt (very little, if any). Although I'm not necessarily going to be accepted at UVA or UNC.

My main issues with U Mich are the weather and girls (idk maybe i should be more focused on my career lol, but whatever). I guess there are so many people though it shouldn't be too difficult to find good looking women. I visited and it was nice but I wasn't blown away. Again, I really loved UNC; it just felt right. I may be able to hedge my bets a little bit by going where ever I decide, even if that's not Michigan, and then trying to transfer if I feel like I need better recruiting/resources to break into banking. How difficult would it be to transfer to an ivy (or some relative equivalent) after a year or two? I hear Penn has decent rates.

Regarding Michigan girls, do realize the school is 25k undergrads.

Apr 27, 2021 - 11:07am

As someone who is very familiar with BC, the recruiting is definitely not as strong as UMich, but still very adequate. Everyone I know who dedicated themselves to getting an IB offer received one. The IB association on campus, which I highly recommend, has about 90% placement into IB

On another note, BC is a phenomenal community (both alumni and students). Alumni really want to see you succeed and are extremely helpful in the recruiting process. Overall its a great choice. 

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Apr 28, 2021 - 12:49am

As a fellow BC student agree. IBA places lights-out, but if you're driven you can make it. I wasn't in IBA and am incoming SA at a LMM shop.

Apr 17, 2012 - 11:06pm

Alright I've pretty much decided to put my deposit down for U Mich. But, I still have one final query: Say, hypothetically, I am accepted to both UNC and UVA off the waitlist. How does the recruiting at UNC and UVA compare to U Mich? Specifically referring to BB IBD in NYC, top boutiques, etc. If I am accepted and decide to go to either of these, I don't want to be kicking myself for making the wrong choice. Based on that list above, it sounds like the recruiting at michigan would be hard to top (for this tier of schools anyway).

Apr 17, 2012 - 11:52pm

UMich would be equal to UVA, and slightly better than UNC.

I didn't say it was your fault, I said I was blaming you.
Apr 19, 2012 - 5:03pm
billmax:
Thurnis Haley:
Hey I go to Pitt!

Don't even think about going here.

Could you elaborate?


Yes. The on campus recruiting here is absolutely garbage outside of the engineering school. The university does not care about the undergraduates. It's all about the medical school. If you want a good job in finance right after school, Pitt would be by the far worst option out of the schools you listed. Finance recruiting is like this: JP Morgan back office positions and Piper Jaffray takes 10 interns from here. That's it really. PNC doesn't even recruit here for front office. The school does not give any effort at all to improve student life here. Most of the buildings are old and falling apart. Student activities are a joke. There is no school spirit at all. The campus is really really small and densely packed. It's way overcrowded. The overcrowding is just plain awful. The university insists on accepting too many applicants when they know there's not nearly enough space for them. Given your choices, I would DEFINITELY go to either Michigan or UNC. Again, I highly suggest you don't go here given your options. There's no reason to choose Pitt over Michigan or UNC. They are better schools in every single way possible.
Apr 19, 2012 - 5:47pm

I didn't read any of this but dude, it's your 4 years. Don't let anyone but you (and whoever's paying for it) make that decision. Especially if you're not 100% set on finance or banking.

I hate victims who respect their executioners
Apr 19, 2012 - 7:49pm

Note: I am very fortunate in that my parents will be paying my full tuition and said I have the freedom to go wherever I like. Although that doesn't mean I want to go crazy without justified reasons (speaking about BC).

I am pretty much prepared to put my deposit in for Michigan, but I was talking with an above poster about BC which sounds very nice as well. Still leaning towards. Michigan. But, I still really want to go to UNC because I think the quality of life will be awesome. I will try to contact them and make my best effort to get accepted. I would assume I'm probably on the upper end of the wait-list but that is of course just speculation. Only problem is I want to double major with physics + a business/finance degree. UNC's math/science department is weaker than Michiagn's. Not sure how much a difference this makes in the grand scheme of things though. Pitt is basically out. I have some personal connections with it though so that's why it's on the list.

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