How does Opt-in Pass/Fail look for IB Recruiting?

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My school recently instated an opt-in pass/fail system for this semester due to COVID-19. If I opted in pass/fail to all classes, would that come off as lazy when recruiting for IB? As a banker, how would you view a student who has opted in pass/fail for classes?

Currently, a sophomore with 3.9+ GPA so going pass/fail would allow me to retain a good GPA going into the recruiting summer.

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  • Intern in IB - ECM
Mar 26, 2020

I doubt anyone with real hiring power is going to scrutinize your transcripts - 99% likely they onlylook at the GPA on your resume so P/F won't be visible or matter. This isn't medical school. I think you're fine, just do what's best for your GPA

Mar 26, 2020

Thanks. I was just worried that this may come in the form of an interview question and saying that I opted in pass/fail may come off looking bad.

  • Intern in IB - ECM
Mar 26, 2020

I really really doubt it. Either way, if you're afraid that's the only place it will come up then thats a great place for it because you're there to defend yourself. But even bigger than that nobody will care - it's a national crisis.

Mar 26, 2020

Don't think any bank asked for transcripts while recruiting, you are fine and dumb not to do that.

Mar 26, 2020

Thank you.

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Mar 26, 2020

Not to steal your thread but I was wondering if anybody could offer help for my specific situation, which is the same general concern as the original thread. I'm at a target with a competitive GPA (3.8 - 3.9). If I get all A's this semester, it will increase my gpa by 0.03 (but still below 3.9). Think 3.84 to 3.87, etc. (I am not stating my exact gpa as I post here extremely often but want to retain anonymity.)

Due to the work I put in during the first quarter of this semester, I am on track to receive A's in every class. I should be able to end the semester with all A's as well, given I put in the work.

However, I am very seriously considering taking all my classes pass-fail in order to put 100% effort into interview prep and recruiting. I have some catching up to do interview prep wise, and, based on my networking, believe I will have at least several 2021 interviews coming up this month.

Do you think I am making a smart decision to lock in my already decent gpa, ignore the "sunk costs", and focus my time on interviews? Similar to OP, my concern is just what people will think when they see I took literally every class Pass-Fail. I want to leave the door open for potentially applying for an MBA program one day too. Thanks.

Mar 26, 2020

Just my input, increasing by 0.03 doesn't seem like a massive change. I would go pass/fail given the other responses in this thread.

  • Prospect in Other
Mar 26, 2020

What if you actually fail a p/f class? do banks care

Mar 26, 2020

Don't know if it's the case for your school, but my school said that getting F in a P/F course will lower your GPA while getting P will keep your GPA the same

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Mar 26, 2020
Mar 27, 2020

Definitely do Pass/Fail and focus on recruiting. The very small GPA change will make 0 difference, especially as you will be interviewing before the semester is even over. Focus on technicals, networking, etc. and you will be in a good position.

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Mar 26, 2020

Do pass fail They won't even look at your transcript. I pass/failed some courses in pass semesters and still landed 2 BBs.

  • Prospect in Other
Mar 26, 2020

Would they rescind your offer if you fail a p/f?

  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Mar 29, 2020

No bro, come on.

Mar 27, 2020

Freshman here, opting out of one of my classes to ensure a 4.0. If I was mid recruiting I would probably opt out of most

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  • Prospect in IB-M&A
Mar 27, 2020

My school made it to where all classes are pass/fail. There isn't even an opt in option so outside of the fact that no one is going to look nor care, they might assume you didn't have an option

Most Helpful
Mar 29, 2020

A couple of the kids from my alma mater I'm mentoring have asked me this question.

The simple truth is that you're worrying over nothing. There is no person, whether in a business role or in HR, who is going to comb through your transcript looking for P/F letters with a maniacal cackle hoping to be able to throw you out of the process.

Here's how it worked back in my day.

You submit your resume to the people you've networked with, you submit it through OCR and sometimes through the bank's own website as well, and you get invited to interview. You perform well and receive an offer, and you're asked for a transcript as part of the process for them to provide official documentation for you to sign. A human goes through and reads the transcript for each candidate that's getting an offer; the goal is solely to confirm that the candidate didn't lie about the GPA on the resume.

Here's how it works today.

All the same as above, except there's now ML/OCR software that can scrub the file and take the grunt work out of it for the HR lackey.

The only cause for concern here would be graduate school applications. Again, people tend to overreact here. HBS is not trying to throw you out of the applicant pool because of a couple P's on your transcript. What they're looking for is an indication of your academic and intellectual ability. If you had a 3.4 GPA, a non-analytical major, and the two quantitative courses you took as part of the gen-ed requirements both showed up with a P on your transcript, that would be a negative. If you're sitting on a 3.84 from a good school and you have a bunch of P's from the spring 2020 semester when corona was rampaging the earth, no one is ever going to blink.

Signed: a guy with a P and a W and a bunch of other letters that weren't A on his transcript.

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  • Prospect in Other
Mar 29, 2020

What if you actually fail a P/F class? Would this raise a red flag and for them to potentially rescind your offer?

  • Intern in 
Mar 29, 2020
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