How far can a MD stick out for a super non-target kid?

I go to a terrible school but have a great attitude, he has been told great things about me. He's an MD in IB and I think he definitely respects my attitude and hustle. If I transfer to a semi target, delay graduation and keep in touch with him will he be able to stick out for me come recruitment time? This isn't a LinkedIn random either. Thanks!

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Sep 14, 2017

Alot

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Sep 16, 2017

Great advice

Sep 14, 2017

do you shine his shoes as your part time job?

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Sep 14, 2017

lel

Sep 14, 2017

MD's an change the laws of physics at a firm. It's all whether or not you're worth him changing the direction of gravity.
Leave no doubt!

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Sep 14, 2017

The MD is really nice and he has been told great things about me. He will see how willing I am to learn and that my high-school fuck ups haven't stopped me from aiming high. I feel like for how young I am it will be impressive but I'm not going to be weird and talk about my "passion for excel."

Sep 14, 2017

What's your favorite excel function??

Sep 15, 2017

Here's some hard reality. From my experience, come game day, an MD will lift a finger for you only if you've built a solid one-on-one personal rapport with him. Your powerful drive and determination may make an initial impression, but the bad news is it's a prerequisite for the industry. To put it into perspective, he literally sees hundreds of kids with "great attitude and hustle" on daily basis. Everybody's busting their arses 24/7 vying for a spot with him, as this site is daily proof. Your best game is getting him to identify you as a "regular" and not another job-hungry kid aggressively trying to pitch himself. Fact is, no one feels obligated to help a person who only expresses interest in you because he needs something. Build a steady casual dialogue NOW so you'll have a "relationship" by the time you graduate. 9-1 he'll feel obligation to assist. p.s. keep it casual (sports, his kids, his alma mater, etc.) the less "banking" talk the better.

Sep 15, 2017

Great response! I hear ya on not talking about banking, last thing I want to do since it'll bore him and come off as lame.

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Sep 15, 2017

You should SEDUCE him!

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Sep 15, 2017
erhlichbachman:

You should SEDUCE him!

K

Sep 15, 2017

B u m p

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Feb 17, 2018

You should leverage any connections you have to get your foot in the door. You'll still have to prove yourself once it's in the door. Coming from a non-target it'll be pretty difficult to keep up with kids who have access to on day 1 of freshman year: alumni for advice either networking or they actually come on campus to give talks, professor-run and 3rd party technical skills workshops, programs that are made to bring kids into IB, clubs made for IB with a decade of information/templates/advice, upperclassman who have successfully gone through the ringer as mentors guiding you every step of the way. The list goes on and on.

I'm transferring to a target school in the fall, and despite having an absolutely perfect record at my non-target (4.0, head of clubs, sports, volunteer work, relevant work/internships), I'm still considering postponing graduation and just using the extra time to get CFA level 1, just so I can have access to a full networking/recruiting cycle and make sure I get the ideal position I actually want. The more accelerated timelines are, the more difficult it becomes for non-targets transfers.

You'd also be setting yourself up for a single-stock shock. If this one connection fails to get you where you want to be, you won't have that pull anywhere else. Need to diversify your options.

TL:DR - MD is a great connect, but don't just count on that. Make sure you set yourself up for success once you're past the door, and if plan A fails.

just a monkey trying to find his way in the finance jungle

Feb 17, 2018

I'm in the same positions as you (sorta, year under), and I applied to a few schools for transfer but Junior year transfer seems more realistic. I don't know seeing that now Sophomore are now being recruited just makes my chances near zero. Just going to pursue something different than IB.

Feb 20, 2018
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