I believe feminist theory is to blame for Trump/Sanders and the political crisis in America

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I mean I get feminism as a political movement. I enjoy having women in the world and they should get equal rights. But I think its the theory that makes liberals and the whole world in consequence so upturned. Sanders is the most feminist beta ever and Trump is just a reaction. Libs have become so intolerant that our politics are in the toilet.

I want to hear thoughts.

Defintion of feminism:

Wikipedia:

Feminism is a range of political movements, ideologies, and social movements that share a common goal: to define, establish, and achieve political, economic, personal, and social rights for women.

Definition of feminist theory:

Wikipedia:

Feminist theory is the extension of feminism into theoretical, fictional, or philosophical discourse. It aims to understand the nature of gender inequality. It examines women's and men's social roles, experience, interests, chores, and feminist politics in a variety of fields, such as anthropology and sociology, communication, psychoanalysis,[1] home economics, literature, education, and philosophy.[2]

Feminist theory focuses on analyzing gender inequality. Themes explored in feminism include discrimination, objectification (especially sexual objectification), oppression, patriarchy,[3][4] stereotyping, art history[5] and contemporary art,[6][7] and aesthetics.

For reference, Google search: "feminism".

Example: Women compare America to 'Handmaid's Tale'

Comments (25)

Jun 30, 2017

no it is because hillary was too smart to win! source here http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/12/clint...
EDIT: honestly i think that you are mostly right, also did you hear bernie might be in trouble for some bank fraud or something lol? dunno if it's true or not but that would be hilarious

also to all of you grinding long weeks to get paid, bernie sanders made over $1million last year preaching socialism and doing no work lol! haha! great!

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Jul 1, 2017

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Jun 30, 2017

Your post falsely assumes feminism is an idea that will make you rich because it's small enough to be exploited, given that it's misaligned with realities, but is still a strong trend.

I think feminism is a theory that is turning the whole world upside down. Islamic radicals want to kill the Western world because of feminism. In turn, men like Bernie want to protect them with their progressive policies and support. Trump wants to standup to them with Putin, the other patriarch, with masculine strength, making the hard choices like the travel ban.

But feminism is the idea that makes this so extreme. Traditional women wore way more clothes and the radicals take note of that and hate us for it.

Nancy Cotts, a feminist historian, said that her academic studies is a great example of thought leadership that works in the modern world when the Supreme Court ruled that same-sex marriage should be legal.

Religion is hated because its tradition is rooted in patriarchal ideas, which feminism hates. Science is used as the anti-religion to show an alternative, feminists' preferred platform to justify everything from male breastfeeding to women having more muscle than men, even if the girl was born a man.

Then Trump, the quintessential patriarch comes to save the day and stand up for all the people who are too scared to standup to women.

Our discourse and subconscious is ruled by feminism, which we never talk about, because most don't seem to recognize how large feminism is.

I would say you need to go long curtains and social media.

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Jun 30, 2017

ever heard of Christina Hoff Summers, or Cassie Jaye? both feminists who essentially left the movement because they felt the new wave of feminism was more about hating men than wanting actually equality (not 100% but it's the gist)

Cassie Jaye had a movie called the Red Pill move which i guess got banned in a few places...

yes i agree Trump is a response to people who feel that they are being silenced by political correctness, so they just follow a dude who will LITERALLY say anything no matter how offensive it is (this is honestly a bad thing).

if you want to see unfettered feminism, just look at Sweden (or Germany). their country is getting crazier and crazier by the day, seriously give Sweden a look, you may be surprised.

the democrats just need a more centrist candidate (with a message) who focuses on jobs and they can win an election easily IMO

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Jun 28, 2018

Islam wants to conquer the western world since the beginning, and it never gave up. Just a little more than 100 years ago the muslim pirates still attacked and enslaved European people in the Mediterranean. Nasser pushed pan-Arabism on anti-imperialistic propaganda (with Israel as main argument). At the UN, in the seventies, muslims advocated a silent invasion of Europe as a modern take on the military invasion tried for one thousand years (literally).

Feminism is just a drop in an ocean of arguments for radical islam.

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Jul 2, 2017

I have to disagree with you. I agree liberals have become more intolerant (but conservatives are too), but Trump did not spring up because of feminism, he gained traction because of economic and job concerns. Trump and Sanders are both populists who love to speak in ideals, and both would probably fail in achieving their goals. In terms of terrorism, terrorism grew out of WW1 when the British Mandate destabilized the region intentionally. This created an environment where it was hard to get jobs. Angry uneducated people=more easily swayed to become violent. An ISIS captive said most discussions by the terrorists was political, not religious. The number 1 victim of terrorism isn't the West, it's the Middle East (often times governments). Terrorism, mainly, seems to be an anti-secular movement, not against feminism. It may play a role, but not a big one.

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Jun 30, 2017

Trump won for a whole slew of factors, including economics. Your focus on strictly economics is a little narrow. That's always a driving factor for most world problems, but the economics of women is even more contentious. In the developing world, the emphasis on women taking leadership is more important because they're viewed as safer investments, more dormant, and interested in making a stable home, which drives trade, communal structure, safer rule of law, etc.

Your timing is way off on terrorism. The first terrorist attack on the US linked to Islam didn't happen until the 80s and the US was isolationist until 1944, but even then, it was still very off-handed with most of world events. The UK was mostly involved with managing things in that part of the world. Little US interests were there other than oil and the US had no intention of messing up that relationship, until Truman recognized Israel in 1948. But that region was destabilized anyway after the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Even still, when you think about how long it took for radical Islamists to attack the US, there was clearly an escalation in tensions.

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Jul 2, 2017

My argument is the British Mandate started the Western hatred, not that it was the sole reason. As you mentioned, the Balfour Declaration and other events lead to an escalation of tension. I'm also not arguing that economics was the sole reason for his election, I just think it was the main reason. Also, all these points aren't important, the main thing I was trying to say is that feminism wasn't the main cause for Trump's win or terrorism. The OP just doesn't like feminism and is trying to create overreaching connections

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Jun 30, 2017

Yeah, they hated the British. I think there are many driving factors behind economics, and a large one is women/feminism. Women changed the world because a whole 50% of the population came into the workforce to compete for jobs, placement in academic institutions, and in how we pursue relationships, etc. Men are statistically failing in this world more than women. Trump is the leader of the resistant movement.

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Jul 2, 2017

do you think the main reason for his election was his resistance to the movement?

Jun 30, 2017

If by that, we imply the support of the patriarchy, then yes. Foreign policy-- masculine; Trade--masculine; social issues--masculine; etc. His entire campaign props up the patriarchy, which in context is resistance. People who are educated, recognize the benefits of some feminism. If you don't read books or are taught by progressive academic institutions, you would never see the benefit of some feminism.

Jul 2, 2017

I agree that conservatives, that voted for Trump, don't want feminism. But I don't think this was THE main factor. US politicians have leaned constructivist in their IR theory, and Trump is realist. Religion probably also plays a factor. But, according to Pew the number one topic was economic questions (84%) then terrorism, foreign policy, and healthcare.

Jul 25, 2017

I partially disagree. The women(and most of the men) who voted for Trump would be pretty ticked if they couldn't vote, hold down jobs, vote or go to school. They want feminism, it's just some of the new flavors of feminism they don't like.

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Jul 2, 2017

I feel like feminism is only brought up when it benefits the woman and has never truly been about equality. I'd do the same shit though, whatever brings my group of people more power. Except I can't because looking out for the interests of white men is pretty much universally frowned upon by everyone. I guess we did do a lot of fucked up shit throughout history. I just feel like the current generation is taking the fall out for shit that happened 500 years ago.

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Jul 3, 2017

500 years ago?

Jul 2, 2017

Yes, 500 years ago. As well as before and after then. Main point being, in my lifetime, I've never seen being a URM and/or a woman work against you. It's a lot harder for a white or ORM male to get into top schools than a URM woman. I actually feel the worst for the over represented minorities because they had to suffer through imperialism and now it's tougher for them to get into school than white people. They are being punished for being too successful. What the fuck kind of logic is that?

I just really hope at some point in civilization, we can can become a true and total meritocracy. I think the smartest people should get into the best schools and get the best jobs. Sorry if ignoring someone's race/gender is some how considered discrimatory.

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Jul 3, 2017
Pokemon Master:

Main point being, in my lifetime, I've never seen being a minority and/or a woman work against you.

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Jun 28, 2018

I never hear feminism talk about about equality all across the board, just at the top.

Meaning, they never say we need more garbage collectors to be women.

Jul 2, 2017

Some URM can abuse the system, but in general, it's way harder for URM to get to the point to apply to top schools. URM students have a lot of other things focus on and often times do not have a lot of money. So they get a little leeway

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Jun 30, 2017

+1 There are significant obstacles one would have to overcome as a minority to even be applying to the top schools in this country. The benefits of the system are a similar push whites are given as a birth rite.

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Jul 2, 2017
iBankedUp:

+1 There are significant obstacles one would have to overcome as a minority to even be applying to the top schools in this country. The benefits of the system are a similar push whites are given as a birth rite.

I just think it should be income of parents' based instead of race/gener based if you want to give any group of people a leg up. There are a lot of poor whites/asians/indians out there who don't get any additional edge when it comes to applying to schools, while middle class URMs are getting the best of both worlds.

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Jul 1, 2017

Feminism is currently a critical issue in the western world. Undergraduate and postgraduate OCR is flooded with exclusive programs for women, in addition to the indiscriminate programs that are available to everyone. Accounting firms, consulting firms, law firms, technology companies, banks, asset managers, academic institutions -- they're all practising discrimination and have been for years. Public and private resources have been focused on this type of discrimination for years, and, yet, people still wonder why it is that men have been falling further and further behind women for decades? It is a travesty.

So, what happens to the average man? They get pushed out of potentially lucrative roles and into less lucrative ones -- which are also, incidentally, especially vulnerable to technological advancement. And as time advances, so does technology -- at an exponential rate. As such, feminism is decreasing the space of lucrative opportunities for men, forcing them into less lucrative positions, and then the natural progression of technological advancement also decreases the amount and compensation of the already small space of opportunities available to most men -- we are being squeezed on all sides. However, It's not technological advancement that is the problem -- that has always been a constant throughout human history and has only served to improve the situation of humanity -- the problem is the feminism.

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Jul 3, 2017

It is also funny because it is women who want a guy to make as much or more than them, but then fight to displace them. You saw men who were CEOs date their secretaries in the 50s, don't think you'll see women doing the same.

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Jul 25, 2017