Non-business undergrad
Hey everyone,
First post, but I have been around here lurking in the dark and searching threads for a while now. I got out of the Army in this past year and enrolled into a community college. I've pieced together schools (I will attach to the bottom of the post) that I am interested in transferring to. One of my concerns is if I transfer to a particular University, but do not become accepted into the business school. As I am confident of my ability to transfer to CAS, or other peograms at these universities, my question is, are the OCR opportunities the same with a good GPA as if one was in the business program? Does it vary by school? I understand being at Wharton vs LPS is night and day, and the LPS student would be in a extreme disadvantage; but say, if one is at Cornell, but not at AEM?
Also, if there are any veterans that have made it to IB, WS, or are at any "target"/"semi-target" schools, I'd love to chat!
Schools of interest: Cornell BC UVA Mich Emory NYU (from what I've read on WSO, NYU is awful with recruitment unless you are at Stern) Reach: UPenn, Dartmouth, Stanford
Hi ArmyToIB, the silence is deafening, sorry about that.... Any of the threads below helpful?
No promises, but thought I'd mention a few relevant users that work in the industry: jgarcia WickedJumpShot Ollie-Williams
If those topics were completely useless, don't blame me, blame my programmers...
In need of advice - Non-business undergrad (Originally Posted: 03/23/2008)
I'm currently a non-business undergrad looking to get into trading (energy/commodities specifically). I have one more semester left this fall and then graduate and I've been trying very hard to land a summer spot with a BB. My best chance may have just imploded with Bear Stearns. Obviously if I get that, it will make my transition much easier and maybe even open up a FT op after the fall. Right now though, its been a week since my second round interview and still no word. I'm going to assume the worst for now given the craziness surrounding the company right now. This then leaves me graduating with no finance internship and no business degree and thus essentially no shot at getting a related job.
Getting an MBA seems worthless post graduation since only lower teir schools would even consider someone with no work experience. However, I was thinking a M.S. in Finance or related major could serve as a segway into a finance career. Someone recently brought to my attention a new program at UVA, a M.S. in Commerce. It's a one year program which is general business the first half then concentration (finance) the second half. It says its intented for non-business undergrads and offered by their undergrad b-school, McIntire, ranked #2 in the nation. Do you think that if my summer plans fall through and nothing presents itself during fall FT recruiting this would be a good way to get into the field?
Thanks for the long read; appreciate any advice.
If it's not too much work to apply to the program, you might as well apply and keep your options open. However, I'd also look into smaller non-BB summer internship opportunities - there are tons of small commodities shops that might be able to find a spot for you. Perform well, network with your employers - most people at small shops got their start at a more established firm, they may be able to help you land a job elsewhere. Also, start going through your alumni network - who can you talk to etc? You still have one more recruitment cycle left in the fall - yes, it will be tough assuming the mkt continues the way it is - but people will still be hiring.
Non business major (Originally Posted: 05/27/2010)
Is it harder for non-business majors to get a job on the street? I have the opportunity to transfer to a pretty good school, but not into the business program.
If you major in econ, you should be alright. None business majors get into trouble when a) resume drops are for business majors only b) they can't answer the more technical questions. If you major in econ and maybe audit classes in the business school you should be alright. I have also gone up to teachers and asked to sit in on their class without it being official or anything and they have all let me.
You may want to look up the school on this site. Some schools have recruiting for all majors (Like Cornell) and others only have recruiting for the business program (like UMich).
Wall Street gets people from all different majors. Three people close to me worked on WS, one had an engineering degree, one had a philosophy degree, and one has a business degree.
yeah i was thinking econ, it seems the material is a bit harder than say finance, i am just scared my GPA may be slightly lower. i ain't no pussy though i have no doubt i can bootstrap it.
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