Since my King Kong shits are so huge, they should cause more damage than the usual monkey shit -1 banana damage. I propose that if you reach King Kong status, your shits do -5 banana points, and your (Giant) Silver Bananas give +10 banana points.
How awesome would it be someone logs in and sees: "Someone threw King Kong shit at you.." or "Someone rewarded you with a Giant Banana..." ?!?!
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lol +1
I agree, that'd be really fun
It would be great. Considering the small about of KK's, it would be easy to figure out who threw shit.
I would like to vote for this idea.
Thanks for the support guys!
Patrick, make it happen buddy!
lol I guarantee it's not going to happen, but I'll throw you a regular banana for the good idea
Haha, thanks for SB
Tell you what - if you're right, you get 5 regular SBs from me, and if you're wrong, you get 3 King Kong shits.
Dang, I wonder how much my poop is worth?
Regards
What happens when ANT gets to human though? What'll it be called then? Or will it be straight up "Someone took a shit on you" lol.
At that point, he'll have enough equity built up that it will just say "ANT took a shit on you"
Haha, that's good. While Human shit may not be as large as King Kong shit, it's definitely the most degrading.
"Someone took a shit on you" = -50 banana points in my book.
Lol. I can see Human status sooner, rather than later. Once you hit Human, the others become to unobtainable.
When you become human you can start hucking grenades
i think we need some sort of ranking based on a ratio of SBs to total bananas. it always worries me when I see these kids spewing nonsense on the boards and they have really high banana counts and that might be taken as a measure of credibility. it's like the blind leading the blind.
Which "kids spewing nonsense" are you referring to? And how is this post relevant to my original post?
just speaking in general...lots of people giving advice when they don't have any real world experience to back it up.
i thought of this because your post said king kongs should have super bananas and super shits, but there are lots of people on the board who have high banana counts and could potentially have king kong status just by volume of posts and not necessarily quality.
SBs/Total Banannas doesn't work without something that effectively normalizes the value. I have ~1075 Bananas and ~100 SBs, does that mean I have a better ratio than Ant who has 400something SBs and nearly 7K posts? That's what being a certified user is about. It's a sign that "Oh, I work on the street" OR you contribute enough quality information and discussion that you have some degree of credit when you post. Truth is, I like doing a normalized "Quality" value, but you need to figure out a way to make the normalizing factor that works fairly as a ratio.
Yes, it would mean you have a better ratio than ANT...that's how the math works. not that it necessarily means that you're a more valuable contributor, just gives an observer more useful information when he's reading your posts. the star is also useful info, but just because you work on the street doesn't mean you post useful/good info and there are probably lots of people (myself included) that don't want to submit work emails to get stars. if you have a higher number of SBs relative to the number of total bananas, it generally means that readers assign higher value to your average post.
I think your value is reflected solely by your station on the overall SB board. Not that I am biased or anything.
Happy, it's not about the position on the SB board. It's about being somewhere near the top of the SB board. I can't overtake ANT, but I can certainly work my ass off and make a run for Gekko if I wanted to. I mean, it's the top 15/top20 SB guys that are usually considered on point. Then again, if I really wanted to make a run for Gekko's coveted 10th spot, I'm sure I could.
Yea fair point, I think extending the SB board to top 15 or 20 might not be a bad idea.
I'd be happy expanding it to 20. (Disclaimer: I have no personal interest in this happening, I just think it'd be best for the site)
I like the idea of King Kong's taking bigger shits/bigger bananas.
I also like the idea of logging in and seeing "ANT the human took a filthy dump on your chest (-20)"
You make a number of very valid points, none of which I really disagree with, however as a straight ratio I don't think this would work. By normalizing whatever metric you are going to use, you don't create the belief that someone with 200 bananas and 15 SBs is a relatively better poster than someone else with 5x the bananas and 6x the SBs. It's not a matter of assining a number that would make this work... it's about assigning a scaled value that adjusts according to your level and ranking.
yeah, i hear you too. i was kind of figuring that a person would see the total banana score and then the SB/total banana ratio, and they would consider both in judging the quality of the info they were reading. a better "quality score" would include some sort of adjustment for total number of posts, total time on the boards, etc.
You also have to realize that people who post a lot get an inordinate amount of both nanners and doo doo tossed at them.
Yeah, like the time a got blasted with 30 shits for saying that paying for sex is lame, or the time Pymp got blasted with 50 shits for saying he wished he went to harvard for college.
Why not just a ratio of SB/shit, with a required SB+shit minimum to be qualified for the leaderboard?
This is interesting! Which leads me to ask: What is an acceptable SB/MS ratio? Here's how I see it:
banana to shit ratio scale:
This is interesting! Which leads me to ask: What is an acceptable SB/MS ratio? Here's how I see it:
banana to shit ratio scale:
yeah, i was originally thinking of this ratio except it seems to me that people don't get shit that often. there are lots of posters that just generate a ton of volume without much quality. they won't get many shits unless the posts are egregiously bad, but they're still polluting the board with pretty worthless stuff. maybe this is only annoying to me.
Also a valid idea
When I look at a person's profile, I pretty much determine this stuff by myself to see who I think has been doing a good job and who sucks. Do we really need to standardize it?
Not that any of this matters since CaptK would smoke anyone and everyone else on this site with his astonishing 158:1 SBs to shit ratio.
HPM, there's some insane ratios that fall in the 20+:1 catagory. That's also impressive that CaptK is 158:1. Next time he posts, I might have to soil him to knock that ratio down a peg!
J/K CaptK... I woudn't do that.
lol HPM just put a target on CaptK's back
I'll let you kids decide if that was intentional or not
http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/banana-valuation-techniques
The problem with a ratio is that it becomes less accurate as a user gets more posts (HPM pointed this out a few posts above) for a couple of reasons. (1) People are far more likely to punish you than to reward you, just like you are more likely to tell people to never go to a shitty restaurant than you are to tell them every time you have you a good dining experience...thus, the people who post the greatest number of times (eokpar02 not withstanding) are likely to be pelted with shit the most. (2) The members with the greater number of posts do more for the site (in general). They often are the ones that start multiple threads daily and those are often more opinion based topics (as opposed to just asking what they should wear to an interview or simply answering a question with a 'yes' or 'no'. etc.). ANT is a prime example. Lately he's been writing about topics that are much more polarizing and therefore is far more likely to be loved or hated, nothing in between. This also plays back into point #1, that people will commend (but not reward) you for your "good" opinion but go out of their way to punish you for your "bad" ones. (3) Not every post is a serious one. I've been given SBs for being funny (or so I tell myself) and that isn't reflective of how qualified I am to speak on a topic nor does it (or should it) imply that my comments should count more than the next persons. (4) & (5) This sort of connects with #2...put simply, you can make enemies on here. The list shows that I've been soiled 15 times and I'm willing to be that all of those turds came from less than 5 different users (potentially just 2 or 3). Not only that, but I also have a feeling that they were all distributed on just a couple (2 or 3) of different threads (because each comment you make can be rewarded or punished)...so you are essentially being soiled (or praised) for the same view you previously expressed.
Truthfully, I am probably in a good position to "benefit" from any ratio boards we have since few user have more banana points than I do AND less shit thrown at them, but I just don't think it will be as telling of the post quality as some folks believe. Anyways, with that said...feel free to do it, it seems like a relatively easy feature to add and something else to keep us monkeys entertained.
I also like the thought of extending the leader board to top 15-20.
Regards
@cph:
If you set the minimum SB+shit bar high enough, the only people that will qualify for the leaderboard will be the people who post the most. And as long as enough people who qualify is skew in the same way I don't think it'll be that big of an issue.
Of course, people who post on more polarizing topics (ANT) will always have a lower rating than guys who only give straight up advice (CaptK), but a single metric can't cover all the bases I guess...
Posting is only part of helping. You guys don't see the PMs and emails, all of which I answer, repeatedly. A lot of the behind the scenes help translates into bananas in real life.
This is true, I'd say at least 50% of my bananas came from PM help. I don't post enough to get too many of them otherwise.
Speaking of silver bananas, OP, do you remember our little deal? I think it's safe to say that king kong shits aren't happening any time soon...
Speaking of which... Rebel, I didn't forget about you. I am waiting on a response. My buddy's been hounded with work. I will bug him again tomorrow about it.
Much appreciated +1
You don't. You just give them to people that help you VIA PM...
The funny thing is, a majority of the PMs do come from people who are new to the site and not familiar with the concept of silver bananas. Therefore, you probably earn less bananas for your time helping people through PMs (which is more time consuming anyway) then you would if you just spent all your time posting on the boards. From a banana perspective it's a bad investment of time, even though that's where a large number of my bananas have come from. However, it can be rewarding in other ways, especially when you get somebody who's pretty squared away and needs help on a deeper level.
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