Montblanc / Hublot for Intern

Prospect in Other

Hi Monkeys,

I will be doing my first IB internship next summer and was wondering if it is frowned upon for interns to wear/use expensive items: I own a 50k~ watch that I always rock as a lucky charm because my father gave it to me before passing. I also use a 2k pen on a daily basis. Would using those be considered cocky or wanna be MD move?

Thanks

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Controversial
Jun 29, 2020

50%+ of any given Analyst class is composed of the children of the c-suite of high profile bank clients or executives of the bank itself. This sort of wealth among Analysts is not something anyone will be surprised about. At the end of the day, you will be judged on the caliber of your work primarily. If you suck out loud and wear flashy clothes, then you might be judged.

Edit: Just noticed you said Intern. Same point, really.

Double Edit: I guess nobody wants to admit that the majority of IBD Analysts are there because of family pedigree and not their own merits. Interesting.

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Jun 29, 2020

It is okay unless you are all like "Oh, you don't have anything to write, here, have my MONTBLANC MEISTERSTUECK LE PETIT PRINCE SOLITAIRE LE GRAND. It costs 2k, by the way. Have I mentioned that it costs 2k? Yes, it really costs 2k. 2k, man!".

If you don't use phrases like this, you will be fine.

P.S. I have a simple fountain Parker that costs like 50 bucks, bought it cuz buying ink in bulk is cheaper than buying new pens, and I find fountain pens easier to write with. Yet, there are people who find even this cocky. So, be ready to deal with different types of people.

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Jun 29, 2020

Get corporate office supplies mate

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Jun 29, 2020

Yo I have my pen since college

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
Jun 30, 2020

i would lose a pen like that in a week

  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Jun 30, 2020

i would steal a pen like that in a week

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  • Intern in IB-M&A
Jun 29, 2020

I mean, how hard is it to just use a different pen or take the watch off before work? Most people won't care, but why take the risk that it pisses off some MD/VP and you don't get a return offer. At best it's neutral, and at worst someone might judge you.

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  • Prospect in Other
Jun 29, 2020

No that's my exact point: I'd rather use them but if it implies any risk whatsoever I can do without. Do you really think MD/VP would ding an intern for wearing an expensive watch?

Jun 30, 2020

Why even take the risk? Doesn't seem worth it in the off chance they care.

  • Intern in IB-M&A
Jun 30, 2020

if you're spending time asking, there's risk

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Jul 1, 2020

I honestly don't think it'll be an issue at all. Have seen quite a few wealthy analysts rock GMTs, JLC and IWCs. Know a few analysts that also love fountain pens and use them daily. Just don't make a big deal out of them. Hublots tend to be pretty loud; as long as it works well with a suit you'll be fine.
Work hard, be curious and build relationships. These things will matter much more.

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  • Associate 3 in IB - Gen
Jun 29, 2020

not sure why you'd wear a 50k watch to work on the daily - I mean, I had a 5k watch that started getting banged up from hitting the desk randomly, scraping against handrails, etc. Save it for special occasions - it's a treasured gift from your dad.

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  • Investment Manager in HF - Other
Jun 29, 2020

Most people won't blink at it and it won't matter. That being said, hublots are not the most "suit friendly" watches, and most that run $50k are pretty loud. The flashier your watch is, the higher risk that someone cares, you could always play it safe until you get a sense of the vibe of your team although I understand if it holds a special meaning to you.

As for the pen, there is no reason to have a $2k pen for an analyst role. Use whatever you are comfortable with, and again if you like it that's fine, you will mostly be using your computer and scribbling random stuff down, a $2k pen won't do that any better than a bic.

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Jun 29, 2020

A lot of this does really depend on the exact watch in question - as somebody already mentioned, a lot of the Hublot watches in that price range look pretty ostentatious and would attract the wrong type of attention for an intern.

But taking a step back, think about the upside / downside here - downside for you wearing the watch and using a Montblanc is higher than the upside. Chances are more people will view both of those unfavorably for an intern vs. somebody being like "oh man, this guy is a watch person, let's give him an offer" or "love that this guy also loves using the finest of writing utensils, let's give him an offer."

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Jun 29, 2020

As mentioned before, I think your attitude is more important than what you are wearing. Unless you are obnoxious about it, no one is going to think less of you. It is no secret many people who are in this industry come from wealthy backgrounds so I doubt you will be the only person wearing pricey items in any case. Even if you do have the most expensive watch in the office and people notice, no one is automatically going to hate you unless it is accompanied by arrogance, entitlement, or (the worst imo) pseudo-humility. Like I cannot imagine an intern being an overall great candidate and then someone saying "but he had a super nice watch" and dinging him for that reason alone.

I have literally NEVER noticed what kind of pen someone is using lol maybe if someone asks to borrow one just pass them an office supplied pen instead of yours so it isn't super obvious or interpreted as a flex. Frankly, I would just leave the pen at home since it could easily be misplaced and, if you're hiding it anyways, there is literally zero added value other than writing notes that will never see the light of day with a little more flourish.

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Jun 29, 2020

I just wanted to add: if you are really nervous about it, maybe leave it at home for the first week and read the room. If there are a bunch of interns/analysts with $$$ watches floating around so yours won't stand out and it seems like your team won't care, maybe bring it in. However, if it is going to stress you out then just don't wear it. No point adding an unnecessary stressor to your life when you should be 100% focused on performing.

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  • Analyst 3+ in IB - Gen
Jun 29, 2020

Not trying to be rude or disrespectful to your father, but Hublots can carry a "judgement" factor among those who follow watches and that's amplified when a kid 20 years old wears it unfortunately.

For many bankers, watches are the first "rich people hobby" they inherit and the ones who actually follow it (ie they bought a JLC / VC / IWC / AL&S / PP instead of a Sub with their first bonus) may potentially judge you, as much you love your Big Bang 44mm.

Obviously your story negates all of the "rich brat wearing a rapper watch" but just something to be aware of.

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  • Associate 3 in IB - Gen
Jun 29, 2020

haha, I didn't want to comment on the choice of watch because his deceased father gave it to him, but unfortunately Hublot's do have a.....polarizing reputation. for that coin, I would be headed straight for ALS or FP Journe and no-one would ever notice.

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  • Analyst 2 in IB-M&A
Jun 29, 2020

ALS Lange 1 is the dream watch

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Jun 30, 2020

Ya, I wanted to comment about the watch as well but refrained.

I personally like to wear very "un-loud" vintage watches, that really don't stand out at all, they just look nice and well cut - I have a Junghans from 70s and a Fulton (no-name Swiss mechanical watch) from 60s, love them both.

Jun 29, 2020

TL;DR of comments:
1) Wear the watch if it means that much to you, just don't be a douche about it
2) Leave the pen at home, it doesn't have sentimental value

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  • Prospect in IB - Gen
Jun 30, 2020

I'd add: it depends on your industry coverage group

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  • Analyst 2 in Other
Jun 30, 2020

can you at least have better taste in watches?

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Jun 30, 2020

I personally don't care but we had an intern in our summer who became a walking meme because he consistently wore JLC watches, Canali/Kiton suits, Tom Ford shirts, Ferragamo/C&J shoes, and always had a Mont Blanc in his pocket. He was one of the nicest/smartest guys in our class but he wasn't known for that, he was known for his attire (and it rubbed some people the wrong way).

Bottom line ... most people don't care, but wearing a flashy watch can only hurt, it will not help.

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  • Intern in PropTrad
Jun 30, 2020

no1 gonna see your stuck up ass anyways in the office ok virtual intern?

Jul 1, 2020

I would leave those things at home and roll in with a standard watch and office supply combo.

Bad idea to show off your wealth when your work ethic weighs far more.

Jul 1, 2020

I wore a submariner to work everyday from intern through a couple years of being an analyst. Then again it was a 10kish watch. I would suggest seeing how the culture is prior to wearing something more than 20k on your wrist. Why even bring the pen? There's a lot of rich interns wearing Apple watches so I would stay more mild and just focus on learning and a FT offer.

Jul 1, 2020
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Jul 1, 2020