Morgan Stanley trash compared to Goldman?


I recently verbally accepted an offer for the 2021 Summer analyst position at MS for investment management fixed income (I know this is IB but still) and was very happy since this is my dream job-going into the buy side was more preferable for me and I wanted to learn from a BB. I have also been interviewing for GS but probably will cancel interviews now that I verbally accepted, since I prefer their culture, people, etc. However I spoke to a professor at my school who's been in the industry for years and he said MS is good but only a quarter as good as GS which is in another league. He also said MS focuses too much on retail clients and because of that doesn't build complex strategies to hedge risks etc and they think they are the shit but are actually brainless. Suffice to say I was upset with his comments and don't think they are necessarily true but couldn't ignore them since he does have experience in the industry. Wanted some opinions from people here preferably those who have been in the industry.

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Sep 12, 2020 - 7:41pm

That's not true at all... MS does extraordinary work, their M&A division crushes out there and they continue to place so well into PE if you're interested in buyside opportunities. You accomplished something hardly anyone can, you got an offer at a top BB... Be happy man! Life is too short to be living based on stupid "rankings"


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Sep 12, 2020 - 9:38pm

The nicest thing I can say is that your professor is misinformed. Having worked on the buy side for over a decade, his comment is ridiculous. 

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Sep 12, 2020 - 10:25pm

You should change your username ASAP  

anyone can find you right now online 

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Sep 12, 2020 - 11:05pm

I genuinely feed bad for the kid, whose identity the OP or an imposter is trying to compromise. I'm sure this kid isn't dumb enough to come on WSO, shit on his future employer while using his real name. 

Wall Street oasis - you should investigate this and if it's really the OP himself, then let it be otherwise u should take down this post 


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Sep 13, 2020 - 12:06am

Wanted to update this post to say the original poster is not who he says he is. Long story but I am working to get this removed. Horrible.


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Sep 13, 2020 - 4:27pm

That doesnt make any sense.. MS pays way more than GS and if you're a strong performer, the sky is the limit at MS. If you're in a front office role at MS, switching teams isn't hard. They want to keep you there. 

At Goldman, they pay you less and there's this fake "open" culture that I strongly dislike.

If you have the choice between MS and GS, there is not reason for you to pick GS over MS IMO. You'll get good experience anywhere at MS, and if you dont think you are, just work hard and switch internally.

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