most rewarding physical commodity trading desks?

In terms of most rewarding physical commodity trading desks, what are some of the best. In terms of rewarding, i've listed some criteria below:

  1. interesting and fulfilling (interesting fundamentals, interesting geopolitical situations, complexity, ect.)

  2. Large upside in the next 25-50 years (a market that is very important for our earths future) - Ags and metals such as palladium, nickel, and copper as well as electricity, renewables and hydrogen

  3. Great compensation (These desks see great year on year performance, landing good bonuses and / or stake in the company)

  4. Travel (While many desks in this realm will travel through time, which desks have interesting travel opportunities?

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Apr 20, 2021 - 6:20pm

Yeah a little bit but not on purpose. You want to know kind of an unanswerable question for at least the first three questions

1. nobody can tell you, only you but very generally most commodities are more similar than you think it's just the specifics where things differ and knowing the specifics of quality and logistics comes with tim imo but others might tell you otherwise

2. Largest upside goes to those who are good plain and simple not on product. Plenty of people crushing it in obscure products and others killing it churning a million barrels of crude. Just be good. Nobody can predict the unknowable that comes from a technological disruption if that's what you wanna know but you are free to bet on it as it becomes a known quantity like litium trading but others are thinking the same and all the participants might take away all that free arbitrage and volume you thought you were so clever getting in on

3. Be good at your job and make money

4. Most involve travel but just depends on what neck of the world you wanna go to

Apr 20, 2021 - 7:36pm

Really does not work like that. This aint BB/EB banking where they ask you what group you like and list your exit opps. 

You get told to go sit in a corner and do what is asked, learn etc...go from there. 
So guess better question are you willing to work in a commodity you find not rewarding at all, if you cannot then lots of firms are out.

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Apr 21, 2021 - 1:23pm

Hah you got the gist of what I mean. Yes some shops only trade certain things so you could find the think best upside and focus on them...But the Trafs or so of the world you may want to trade LNG and guess what you trading metals if they need to grow in metals want to work at places like those early gotta be more flexible.

Will add on the travel question, gas/power or more quanty/data driven commodities you don't need to travel much.

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Apr 23, 2021 - 1:07am

Go into power. 

1. oil/gas could die, power will only grow.

2. Other markets are too small. 

Apr 23, 2021 - 1:32am
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