Multi-manager compensation

Hi all -

Was hoping to get input on what market compensation for typical multi-manager platforms is (think citadel / surveyor, BAM, milleniums of the world). I'm a Senior Analyst (graduated in '11) making a transition from a single manager fund (>10B AUM; think Eminence, Highline, Soros of the world) to a multimanager platform with a lean

 

if you are at a multi manager all those numbers will be decided by the PMs who brought you over. Generally there is no standard for analysts, it is based on the deal the PM has with the firm and what he wants to give you out of that deal. At most of these places there are also analysts who work outside of portfolio management pods that provide analysis to everyone...usually economists. But if you came over or were hired by a PM he is the one who will pay you.

 
Bondarb:

if you are at a multi manager all those numbers will be decided by the PMs who brought you over. Generally there is no standard for analysts, it is based on the deal the PM has with the firm and what he wants to give you out of that deal. At most of these places there are also analysts who work outside of portfolio management pods that provide analysis to everyone...usually economists. But if you came over or were hired by a PM he is the one who will pay you.

hey @Bondarb .... can you provide a list of multi-manager platforms (besides the obvious, BAM and Millennium)?

 

Varies a lot. Goal should be to negotiate some % of PnL that will deliver substantial upside if the pod does well. If you don't have such a deal you effectively end up as "just an analyst", and the PM will pay you what s/he thinks you need to stick around (e.g. comparable to what you'd make at other shops) and keep any 'excess' profits.

Aim to structure a deal that would, in a 'good' year, pay you more than you'd make at a big single name shop. Since you don't get management fees in a pod, your earnings will be more volatile (at a big single name you rarely get 0 bonus, even if the firm loses money) and your career risk much higher, so you need to be compensated for that.

 

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