On average how much sleep do you get on a weekday?

On an average weekday how much do you sleep?
What's your average sleeping and awake times?

How much do you need, do you get enough?

I try to get 8 and half hours a night following the advice of Matthew Walker but find its hard to fit in. On average I get to sleep at 11 and wake up at 6: 15.

Ideally I would like to sleep from 11 to 7:30.

I love sleep (Yeah this is what happens when you only work 38 hours a week lol. )

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Comments (62)

Jan 27, 2019

As of recently I have tried out a few different sleeping techniques.

This is probably the best I have found.
Currently I am sleeping from 7:00am-9:00am and 8:00pm-12:00am.
I find this maximizes my efficiency with the way that I work. I am probably 2X as productive than most people in my opinion.

So I sleep about 6 hours a day on average. Some days 4 some days 8.

I work to my own schedule. Unless there are scheduled meetings or something like that.

I want to try a Leonardo Da Vinci sleep schedule of 20 minute naps every 4 hours. But have not yet committed to it.

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Jan 28, 2019

That's very interesting. It must have taken a very long time and a lot of experimentation to come up with that schedule.

Jan 27, 2019

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Jan 28, 2019

"I am probably 2x more productive than most people in my opinion" lol

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Jan 27, 2019

Most people work 40-50 hours a week. I often pull 110 hour weeks. This is not something I am proud of and will probably start to outsource some of my responsibilities.

edit: changed 130 to 110

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Jan 28, 2019
Nickh:

Most people work 40-50 hours a week. I often pull 110 hour weeks. This is not something I am proud of and will probably start to outsource some of my responsibilities.

edit: changed 130 to 110

Are you really productive if you're working 110 hours a week? Seems pretty contradictive

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Jan 28, 2019

Your body must absolutely hate you, one of the dumbest things on the internet is people who think they can "hack" sleep.

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Jan 27, 2019

I have shit I have to do while I am alive. I can't do that while sleeping.
But yes my body is taking a toll. Not physically but mentally.

Jan 28, 2019

What "shit" are you able to do if your mental capacity is taking a toll?

Jan 29, 2019

I'm confused. Your badge says IB but when I hover over it, it says "corporate banking" which would also explain the motherly question about getting adequate sleep. In which industry do you work?

Jan 28, 2019

Currently, an undergrad headed to BB IB this summer. Haven't updated my title to reflect current situation since accepting IB SA over CB internship. But that's beside the point, adequate sleep for me is 6-7 hrs, who knows maybe I won't be able to keep that up in IB but I sure as hell won't be sleeping from 7:00am-9:00am and 8:00pm-12:00am.

Jan 29, 2019

FWIW, what I learned in IB was that you can get enough sleep if you make sleep your top priority other than work. The mistake I've seen too many people make often (and I made it a few times also) was to let other things get in the way, especially gym and going out. Yes gym is related to health and yes going out can be irresistible when you havent' seen your buddies in 2 months and you finally got out early on a Friday. And I'm not saying you won't get to the gym and bar here and there. But if you know your body is owed some sleep and you can have the discipline to put that first, you won't regret it.

Jan 28, 2019

I used to larp with daytraders on discord and a couple of them would sleep in between market sessions.

They said it just happens naturally, 2 hour sleep cycles and your body gets adjusted. Weird shit.

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Jan 27, 2019

I love how I get MS for explaining my sleeping habits.

Jan 27, 2019

7.5 hours

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Jan 27, 2019

Sleep at 1am / awake at 8 or 9 am (total sleep 7-8 hours)

Jan 28, 2019
thistooshallpass:

On average I get to sleep at 11 and wake up at 6: 15.

Pretty much exactly this, although I'm prone to fall asleep earlier and wake up earlier

Jan 28, 2019

6-7 hours. I wake up at 5-5:15 am.

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Jan 28, 2019

7-8 hours. Fall asleep around 11pm and wake up between 6-7am.

Jan 28, 2019

I try to head to bed around 8pm. After stretching, sex, talking with the wife, and reading, I usually retreat to my tatami mat around 10:30 and fall asleep quickly if everything goes well. Sometimes, I can't fall asleep for a while if I start thinking about the wrong thing. Based on season and state of mind, I wake up naturally around 4am-6am. As I grow progressively more manic, I start waking up earlier than that and having a harder time falling. My days grow more frenzied. I get a lot done. I finally can't stand it anymore and have to drink and smoke heavily for a few days to normalize. I spend about 6 hours a day sober - enough to work out, eat, and stay afloat with work. Until my energy levels have normalized and I return to normal patterns for another period of time. And the cycle repeats. Sometimes, I don't feel like being awake and choose to take a certain blend of supplements and do certain activities to fall asleep as early as 6pm-7pm.

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Jan 28, 2019

I listened to the matthew walker podcast with Rogan and thought "yeah, this science is really interesting, but give me something I can actually use"

true, it would be great to get 8.5 hours of sleep a night, but it's just not realistic. I like to think I have a pretty efficient schedule with short commutes in a major (but not as big as NYC/LA/SF) SE city,, but it's still tough. I get to work 7-730, for reference

530-7 - wake up, cook breakfast, shower, get in car to arrive at work
730-6 - work
6-630 - get dressed & drive to gym
630-730 - work out
745/8 - arrive at home, begin preparing dinner
8-9 - eat with wife
9-? wind down, usually watching a documentary or sports

so if Dr Walker were to look at my schedule, he could potentially tell me to go to bed right after dinner to get my full 8 hours in. let me tell you something kiddies, you need to wind down. I'm willing to short sleep in order to spend some QT with my wife and unwind from the day. it is important to have discipline, try to get your sleep in sync with your circadian rhythm/sleep cycle duration, but unless you're a tim ferris life hacker who's outsourced everything, 8.5hrs every night just seems like a pipe dream.

I wouldn't trade a few extra years in my 80s or 90s for the time I spend with my wife, or the late nights with the boys if there's a good game on. life's about choices, I don't dispute the science (because he's largely right), but I don't think we should take his recommendations in isolation. I'd rather have a healthy marriage and a growing business versus being 100% rested 100% of the time and never see the people I care about.

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Jan 28, 2019

You spend 1.5 hours eating breakfast and getting ready for work?

Seems way too long

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Jan 28, 2019

I cook breakfast everyday, that's not just eating, I make my wife's breakfast, shit shower shave (I shave my entire head and face), and wear a suit every day. also within this is usually checking morning emails, overnight news from asia/europe.

idk what else to tell you bro, I'm unwilling to have a beard or hang onto scraps, the shit takes time.

Jan 28, 2019

Take as much time as you want; just dont think that 1.5 hours spent on that stuff would be labelled as a "pretty efficient schedule"

Everything else seems standard. I know some ppl like going to the gym every day but you only need 2-4 days imo (two of which are on the weekend) which can free up some time for you

Do whatever you want but if sleep is important/priority you can probably fit more time in for it

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Jan 28, 2019

Yeah, gotta agree w/ you on that not being that efficient.

Jan 28, 2019

Will dogpile on top of this, seems too long. What about trying intermittent fasting? So basically you only eat lunch and dinner. Takes the stress out of trying to have a complete, healthy breakfast each morning, and you just get up, shower/shit/etc, and out the door. Could probably get you 45min to an hour back.

Jan 28, 2019

sigh I knew publishing my itinerary would lead to some blowback, oh well, live and learn.

out of curiosity what would you do to make your mornings more efficient?

@mrharveyspecter @NuclearPenguins want your input too. also, IF is a nonstarter for me, I've tried it and I'm too hungry in the morning, plus all of my physician friends have recommended against it for me unless the goal is weight loss.

Jan 28, 2019

If cooking and eating with your wife is important, by all means do it. This is probably your biggest time drag though; depending on what you are cooking and if your wife wants to sit down and talk etc

Personally, I take 30-40m from the time I get up to be out the door. Wake up, immediately go to the bathroom and shave and shower. Sometimes sit on my couch and check my phone for 5m and then put on some clothes and leave for work. I skip bfast but if I am dying of hunger I grab a banana or some granola from the pantry at work

Jan 29, 2019

I dunno, I like the 1.5 hours, I'd label that "time to wake up and get your shit together," maybe these 26 yos are just more awake at that time but that's more productive than mine!

Jan 28, 2019

I live alone, so my perspective / schedule is probably skewed, but here it is. I eat breakfast at my desk generally. Lucky to have kitchen with a bunch of free food like hard boiled eggs, avocados, toast, bagels, etc. - but could easily pick up something on the way in if I wanted to as well.

6:20 wake up
6:20-6:30 get changed / get out of bed
6:30-6:55 walk my dog
6:55-7:10 walk to the gym
7:10-8:20 gym + shower and getting dressed
8:20-8:30 walk to work

Jan 28, 2019

damn, biggest downside of PWM outside of NYC, never onsite breakfast and the only "quick" things that could actually save me time are bad for me.

thanks for the clarity

Jan 29, 2019

Two suggestions:

1.) Look into giant wax strips to go over your face and head. You rip that shit off in one fell swoop and that will save you some time.

2.) throw whatever you want to cook on the engine of your car and drive in to work. You can pop your hood and grab your eggos when you get to work.

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Jan 28, 2019

finally, some advice I can use, +1

Jan 28, 2019
thebrofessor:

sigh I knew publishing my itinerary would lead to some blowback, oh well, live and learn.

out of curiosity what would you do to make your mornings more efficient?

@mrharveyspecter @NuclearPenguins want your input too. also, IF is a nonstarter for me, I've tried it and I'm too hungry in the morning, plus all of my physician friends have recommended against it for me unless the goal is weight loss.

Anyone who DOESN'T take a solid 1.5 hours to get ready in the morning probably doesn't eat a real breakfast.

Anyone who actually lifts like us and doesn't look like a toothpick / pudgey blob knows we neeed them eggs, steel cut oats, etc ;) shit takes time

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Jan 30, 2019

Homie eggs and oatmeal take about 5 minutes to make... 10 if we count HAND WASHING everything after.

I'll give it to him, got a few bald family members and they HAVE to shave their head in the mornings, plus brofessor says he wears a suit and cooks for his wife (depends what she's eating I guess). It really comes down to how slowly you get your morning going (I won't lie I've sometimes spent like 20 minutes on the pooper).

An alternative @thebrofessor might be to make your mornings a bit more efficient you could lay out your suit for the next morning and also shave at night?

Probably important to note that I'm 100% supportive of losing a few hours of sleep here and there to enjoy experiences... but I used to be at a point where watching (too much) TV or playing PS4 would cut into my nights / sleep and I have luckily fixed that habit since.

Jan 30, 2019

First comment agree, second comment 100% disagree

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Jan 28, 2019

there's definitely substitutes for say oats that are much quicker such as Ezekiel bread. So I will take back my second comment.

Jan 30, 2019

More so the comment about breakfast being necessary to build quality mass. As long as you're in a caloric surplus you will add weight. For me, those meals come in between the hours of noon and 10pm.. just depends on personal preferences

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Jan 28, 2019

Haha didn't mean to criticize your routine, you have to do whatever works best for you. I've been pretty happy with IF. I honestly don't find it makes a massive difference in terms of weightloss, strength, etc. The biggest thing for me is just time saving in the morning. Even when I lift in the morning, I've gotten to a point where I can make it to lunch time before I eat. The first couple of days of IF aren't great, but you settle into it.

Sometimes I'll do coffee/tea with collagen for a little bit of a protein/energy bump if I need it.

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Jan 28, 2019

I literally cannot fall asleep before 12am, I don't know why, no matter how tired I am I just can't do it.

So I usually sleep 12am-6am and then sleep like 12 hours fri/sat night. It's pretty shitty and something that I want to fix.

Jan 28, 2019

6-8 hours each night. When we tour deals, we go in/out in a day so need to wake up at ~4:30am to get to the airport, and don't land until 10-11pm. I catch up on any sleep deficit on Saturdays - wake up between 8:30 and 11am depending on catch up needed.

Jan 28, 2019

10:50-5:50am currently. Once I go back to my old office I'll likely do 11-6:50am since I won't have to wake up as early.

Jan 30, 2019

Fall asleep at around 10:30ish, up anywhere between 5:00 and 5:15. Gym 5:30 until 7, shower change drive to work by 7:45 to 8.

Jan 28, 2019

Usually 12pm-7:45am, but honestly I get undisciplined about it a lot and end up staying up. Sometimes it's watching a movie late at night or just hanging out with the boys

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Jan 28, 2019

I sleep in hour and a half increments with 30-45 min breaks in between. From 10pm to around 6am.

if you asking why the weird schedule, i'm a new parent...

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Jan 30, 2019

Congrats and at the same time, my condolences.

Jan 28, 2019

Thank you! Its a funny thing you know. Hes an absolute delight during the day....but then at night when the sky gets dark its like he turns into another person...a werewolf if you will, with a howl to boot. lol

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Jan 28, 2019

4-5 hours per night during the week (sometimes 6 if I'm lucky).

8-10 hours per night on Friday and Saturday night.

Jan 28, 2019

11/1130 for bed, up at 6 for the gym.

so 6.5 to 7 hours generally.

Jan 28, 2019

per sleep cycle app

average time to bed 12:28 AM
average wake up time 9:11AM
average hours slept 8:42

Jan 28, 2019

What I try to do on "normal" weeks is to wake up at 6:20 (assuming going to the gym), bed by 11:20 so that gets me 7 hours or so on average. Much better than banking days. Catch up on the weekends as possible.

Jan 28, 2019

3-4 hours Sunday-Thursday night followed by ~12 hours Friday night, then 6-7 hours Saturday night

Jan 29, 2019

~10pm - 4:45am on weekdays, with more variance than I'd like on the going to sleep part.
Weekends are just too random to even try to generalize.

Jan 29, 2019

7 - 7.5 hours during the week. 8-9 on Sat/Sun. I am just about finished with his book, and it has done a pretty good job scaring me into sleeping more.

The one thing I think people aren't accounting for is the time spent awake throughout the night. I have an OURA ring which tracks my sleep and if I am in bed "sleeping" for 8 hours, I usually have 30-45 minutes of awake time throughout that night... and I am not one that just wakes up in the middle of the night and can't fall back asleep. It is just the normal tossing and turning that adds up.

I agree that for most it is nearly impossible to get 8.5 hours of sleep during the week. I am fortunate enough to only work 45/week, so that gives me plenty of time after work to get to the gym and still make dinner, have time with the gf, etc.

Now, rather than watching an extra episode of the Office with my gf, I make the conscience effort to get in bed and read around 10:00/10:15. Gives us enough time to partake in adult activities and still be asleep by 11. Going from 6 hours to 7+, I have definitely noticed an improvement in my overall mood and reduced cravings for shitty food.

Jan 29, 2019

Most on commenting on here are in the labor force/IB in particular. I'll add a data point as a college student.

Easily 8.5-9 hours on weeknights. Maybe a bit less on the weekends (~7hrs). I find it hard to believe, unless you also happen to be working part-time or something, that college students could honestly get much less than that unless there is poor planning at play or a real tough major.

Jan 29, 2019

I'd disagree that 8.5-9 on weeknights is easy in college if you enjoy a pretty active social life and live with some of your best friends. Wouldn't give back going out to the bars on a Tuesday or just shooting the shit with my buddies until the wee hours of morning to get a full 8 hours for some joke of a class the next day.

Jan 28, 2019

amen. out at bars til 2am, trying (and usually failing) to close a girl til 3am, bullshitting with the boys and watching ESPN til 330am, up by 745 to try to make it to the 8am on time.

I don't think I've ever consistently gotten 8 hours a night on weeknights.

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Jan 30, 2019

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Feb 3, 2019

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Feb 16, 2019