Portfolio Manager Career Path

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I am a high school student, and I will graduate in a little over a year. My college will be completely paid for, so I was planning on getting my MBA directly after my undergraduate, I was planning on a major in finance and a minor in economics. My question to you is, since I will be bee lining it to my MBA, hopefully with some internships, what would be the quickest/best way to become a portfolio manager?

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Mar 15, 2018

Getting your MBA directly after undergrad is only possible at horrible schools and will give you virtually no more opportunities than just completing undergrad alone.

Cheers!

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Mar 16, 2018

Second this. A friend of mine got her MBA straight out of undergraduate and is doing advising work as we speak.

Would getting CIMA certified help @DickFuld ?

No pain no game.

Mar 15, 2018
H13x:

Second this. A friend of mine got her MBA straight out of undergraduate and is doing advising work as we speak.

Would getting CIMA certified help @" ?

No.

A CFA probably would help at a lot of mutual fund companies. However, the opportunity set to be a PM at a mutual fund will likely be a lot smaller over 20 years from now (when OP will be in his forties) given the continued flight to indexing.

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Mar 16, 2018

@DickFuld

So, if someone was at a non-target/online BA/BS school, it's best for them to study and pass the CFA at that point to jump start their career?

No pain no game.

Mar 15, 2018
H13x:

@DickFuld

So, if someone was at a non-target/online BA/BS school, it's best for them to study and pass the CFA at that point to jump start their career?

Just focus on trying to get into the best school you can for undergrad right now. The rest of this stuff is just mental masturbation.

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Mar 16, 2018

Yeah, about that mental masturbation.

Seems a lot of it going around lately. Party school versus decent STEM-type academia...party school with hot chicks...academia...

Thank you for the heads up @DickFuld . Hard part about heading back to school at my age is the stable income I need to have in order to make ends meet + cover tuition, hence a full ride is what I am aiming at.

Sound advice on the CFA.

No pain no game.

Mar 20, 2018

The first part of your comment isn't true - even M7 schools often take at least 1-2 students straight out of UG

Mar 15, 2018
mbamarathon:

The first part of your comment isn't true - even M7 schools often take at least 1-2 students straight out of UG

Let's say that's true.......those 2 students will not get the same opportunities as those who have work experience. Will they get better opportunities than they would have with undergrad alone? doubt it.

So, what is your conclusion? Should he/she strive to get the MBA right after college? Keep in mind he's in high school.

Mar 20, 2018

I'm not arguing with that. I actually completely agree - it's almost always a bad idea to get an MBA straight out of UG and it occurs more often at lower ranked schools. I was just pointing out that it is technically possible (albeit unlikely) to get into a top program straight out of UG

Mar 15, 2018
mbamarathon:

I'm not arguing with that. I actually completely agree - it's almost always a bad idea to get an MBA straight out of UG and it occurs more often at lower ranked schools. I was just pointing out that it is technically possible (albeit unlikely) to get into a top program straight out of UG

So, you're arguing just to argue...got it.

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Mar 15, 2018

I second that an MBA direct out of undergrad will not give you a head start (cause I did it).

There are lots of paths to PM over a career. All of my PMs were either engineers, science, or history majors. Getting to the PM role is about delivering a constant stream of profitable investment ideas as an analyst, with a fair amount of luck that a role opens up.

Mar 21, 2018

logan.d, bummer your thread hasn't had a response yet. Maybe one of these threads could point you in the right direction:

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Mar 21, 2018

A PM in what (asset/class) strategy? Why do you want to get two Masters degrees? You need to clarify/expand upon your plan.

Mar 18, 2018

Our newest PM is coming out of Risk. The department is quant, and we'd prefer him in product instead of trading, and likely we'll be pulling him a lot for product work, but the title is the only way we were able to get him. He was widely considered one of the smartest people at our ~2k person shop. Aiming for PM is unrealistic out of school. (our highest paid PM makes roughly 5X what the CEO does, and the CEO was a PM)

Mar 20, 2018

Alright, if I should wait to get my MBA. What should I do? Start as an asset management analyst? Then move up the chain to associate then PM? And where should I get my MBA in there?

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Mar 15, 2018
logan.d:

Alright, if I should wait to get my MBA. What should I do? Start as an asset management analyst? Then move up the chain to associate then PM? And where should I get my MBA in there?

That would be fine, as would equity research or banking. If things are going well in your career, you probably won't want to get an MBA. The opportunity cost should be massive and you may very well end up in a similar or worse seat than the one you left.

I know this is hard to understand at your age, but you will simply be choosing from your best set of alternatives at each point in time. There is no final destination.

This entire career you have mapped out in your head will not turn out the way you expect. The traditional PM will have largely gone the way of the Dodo bird by the time you hit mid career (where you reach peak earnings). Maybe that prediction will be wrong and maybe it won't, but something will take you on a different path than you expect now.

Mar 16, 2018

@DickFuld

Life definitely DID NOT turn out how I expected it to be. I think the OP and some of the folks here are overly obsessed with the MBA as a needed requirement over excellent work experience for the PM career path.

One thing I thought about when I read the thread, "Crap tends to hit the fan often."

No pain no game.

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