Had this debate with my friend.
Connected with a girl who I ended up sleeping with. She lives in NYC, so I'm thinking 30+ men for a girl living in a large city such as NYC is no big deal.. especially at her age. I've met girls 20-22, that are in the same range. To me, those girls are definitely slutty.
But, at 27, you cant really expect a girl to be stuck at 7-10 guys - can you? I dont intend to date this girl and we have since parted paths. I'm just wondering if sleeping with more than 30 guys at her age is a red flag..
girlfriend slept with too many guys
How many is too many? Well the opinion on this varies. Indeed, It is very much a matter of personal preference...
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Probably not a red flag, it's 3.3 occasions a year since she turned 18 which isn't counting college years or the probability that she didn't in fact wait until turning 18. On the other hand it also isn't counting medium-term relationships. Who knows, this is totally a judgement call.
It's all a matter of perspective.
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For one night stands, idgaf how many dudes she's slept with for the most part and might rather have a girl who is more experienced and would be willing to do more crazy shit. For a long term relationship though, i would definitely prefer a naive girl, since you can work up to the crazier stuff (and more) over time, without knowing she gets more dick than a urinal
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Lol... If she's attractive then that zip code is going to be the norm, not the exception... You may want to rethink your expectations, especially if you're dating in a big city. I don't subscribe to judgments on this issue because I think it's stupid and a double standard. But what I can tell you from experience is that your outlook is a bit naive...
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not necessarily:
maybe she slept with 30+ men for medical reasons
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LMAO
VB, in your playbook, this is where he buys her the $2k laptop, right?
I let out a slightly digitalized "OoOh shit!" ala the LSO video. SB'd.
"That dude is so haole, he don't even have any breath left."
How do you have this specific and precise data in the first place...
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Is a company with projected $10bn in cash flow for the next 10 years a good investment for a PE shop? Why can't we say for certain? That's right - we need context. Which PE shop? Mega fund or tiny place with 2 LPs?
Similarly, if you've got game and can deal with a girl who's probably way better in the sack than you, go right in there. But if you're the guy who's had one girlfriend in his life, chances are good that you shouldn't date or get emotionally invested.
Lol... If she's attractive then that zip code is going to be the norm, not the exception... You may want to rethink your expectations, especially if you're dating in a big city. I don't subscribe to judgments on this issue because I think it's stupid and a double standard. But what I can tell you from experience is that your outlook is a bit naive...
I know because I asked her after we hooked up.
Probably not a red flag, it's 3.3 occasions a year since she turned 18 which isn't counting college years or the probability that she didn't in fact wait until turning 18. On the other hand it also isn't counting medium-term relationships. Who knows, this is totally a judgement call.
define "slutty" please
It is hard to say and I dont slut shame at all. But like the girls I mentioned before, If you're 21 or 22 years old, and you've been banged by more than 30 dudes, then thats slutty.
You just contradicted yourself. And "slut shaming" is a stupid term for stupid people.
heister:
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You literally just said you "didn't slut shame at all" and then followed it with the most basic, and obvious example of slut shaming.
as long as you're bigger than the rest of the guys, you're getting a part of her no one else has.
Waiting for someone to use that line. SB to you sir!
LOL...comment of the thread.
Also I'm pretty shocked that OP would trust any number she spits out. Either she has a disease or she doesn't, and that doesn't necessarily depend on the number.
No comment. The last time I wrote about sluts I got deluged with shit.
30 doesn't seem particularly high, but my sense is that if she's telling you 30, it's probably a lot more.
can't stop laughing at that
Thank you.
I think I've said all there is to say already. People don't like the double standard, but if you want to learn more about why it exists, just Google 'Human Matng Strategies'. There is a biological basis as to why the dominant mating strategies differ between men and women. In the end, we're just animals.
EDIT: you completely changed your post, but I left my answer here anyway.
Maybe because I'm the only guy my gf has slept with, but even at 27 years old, it would be tough for me to swallow that she's got the D from 30 other guys....
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Do you guys ask women how many guys they've slept with? How does this come up? Even if she asks me, I won't return the question because I can't picture a situation where I want to know.
heister:
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This. I don't ask questions I don't want to know the answer to. I also don't answer such questions.
Golden,
You can label a girl a slut, but it doesnt mean you have to view her as less of a woman if you think she is one.
Exactly what I think CuriousAnalyst. We all have our preferences. I would prefer a girl I date not to have any tattoos, but some dudes like that. Doesn't mean I think a girl with tattoos has any less value as a human being.
yes it does
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Fine, makes sense.
And, by the way, I'd rather not date a girl who's seen more dick than a urinal. But do you guys really want naive girls? They suck in the sack and are often clingy. And get weireded out by stuff like choking...
heister:
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bro
TMI
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For one night stands, idgaf how many dudes she's slept with for the most part and might rather have a girl who is more experienced and would be willing to do more crazy shit. For a long term relationship though, i would definitely prefer a naive girl, since you can work up to the crazier stuff (and more) over time, without knowing she gets more dick than a urinal
don't ask. don't tell.
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Agree.
I don't perceive it as red flag considering age and living in a large city. But if you're posting about it on a forum, then it's probably a red flag for OP and he is uncomfortable with it, whether he realizes it or not.
All of this. If a girl is single and casually dating it's pretty reasonable to have sex with 5 plus people a year and that adds up. I would never commit in any real way to a guy I hadn't slept with because if the sex is bad than what's the point. I don't care how well I get along with a guy, of the sex isn't above average than I don't want to date that person. If you hold girls to a low number than you're running the risk of being with women who potentially don't value sex that highly, and no one wants that.
This is exactly the kind of discussion I would expect on here.
I guess she's really nice.
Regular on the F-train kind of nice
+1 for reference
1. she's probably slept with 1.5x to 2x 30 .. girls always low ball their estimates
2. 30 at 27 is'nt a crazy number if you haven't dated anyone for a significant period of time
3. wrap it up
I rawdogged her :(
You rawdogged a random? Good job, retard.
heister:
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I get rawdogged by randoms everyday! Does that make me retard for not caring about getting knocked-up..and by a random??
It's only a red flag if you have a bad rash the next day
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Bet that pussy was wider than the grand canyon.
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Time to get tested then?
I for one am getting tired of all of the "Did I hook up with a slut" threads. You are looking for a conformation feedback loop that you don't gravitate towards whores. News flash. You do. No one cares.
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Depends, I could look at it two ways:
1) I'm her age, and I've slept with a little under 20 girls. Since girls generally pair with men older than them, it seems like she has around the same pace I do. I certainly think I'm capable of being in a long-term relationship (and I currently am in a long-term one with a girl I'll probably marry, and I'm extremely happy).
2) That said, the girls I slept with and didn't date medium or long-term, are generally "lower-quality" than the girls I do date. I think the question arises of, why did she sleep with so many guys and not find someone to date long-term? Is she emotionally unstable or have some baggage, or was she the one who chose to not date them?
Should could just have gone through a multiple year phase like I did in which random hook-ups were fun and she wasn't looking for anything serious...I think that's totally fine (actually great, I love experienced girls, they're amazing in bed...but a lot of guys are insecure about this, and it's okay if you are). BUT, It's also possible she's scaring all these guys away, which is a bad sign.
Yes, it was dumb to raw dog her. But what girl isnt random? You never truly know a girl, and you just said earlier you'd never ask a girl how many guys she's slept with. So lets say you are dating this girl I raw dogged for 1 month or so. You dont know shes banged 30+ guys because you said you dont ask. Is she no longer "RANDOM"? So you raw dog her, dont you? Seems like you are a retard too
Firstly, yes, I am a retard too many times over and for various reasons, including that one. Ideally, I'd wait until I'm familiar enough with her to be reasonably certain she's clean and that she cares enough for me at that point that she would tell me if she wasn't. And that she knows me well enough to not rule out the possibility I may literally kill her if she knowingly infected me with some shit.
heister:
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Damn women are slutty these days
damn 30 is alot.
funny post, At first I was oh wow she's displaying alot of trust to to you by saying 30. Then someone mention girls always low ball their #'s and then I was like DAMNNN 50?!
Are you 16?
heister:
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no you pedifile
forgot to mention, this topic has already been discussed at another forum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oVoJMVsKtk
Videos or it didn't happen.
I tried this once during doggie and took a pic with flash on accident.
heister:
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LOL. Was it an epic picture though?
Why would you ask?! You're always setting yourself up for failure.
And 30 is a round # which means she low balled you.
K I regret getting involved in this thread. Wish we could remove ourselves/delete posts.
It depends upon your tolerance level. If you are a religous person you might want to think about dating a girl that has only one or no men under her belt. I realize that in today's world that aspiration is growing ever more ridiculous and unrealistic, but it is always possible. If you are someone more accepting then, you might ask yourself "how many women have I slept with?" If it is comparable to her numbers then you are both the same type of individual. Wouldn't be a green flag to move forward with that thought?
30 partners seems high, even at 27 imo. Did this chick never hold down a relationship? A woman's beauty peaks around 22-25 and during these years most hot girls are pretty selective. It's one thing to lick her face, and another to poke your sword in her baby maker.
After 30+yrs a woman's attractiveness begins depreciating fast and she will allow more dudes to bang her, and in diff positions. Her morality and sense of self fades. I'll also add that women become hornier at this age. Maybe it's because their fertility cycle is closing... its science?
who cares, wear a rubber and move on to the next one
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