Should slavery be legal?
As of today, many people around the world choose to do degenerate things as their careers. There are people who sell their farts, humiliate themselves on videos, and have sex with so many guys in a single day, just for the sake of fame and money.
Given a chance, many of these people would agree on becoming real slaves for a good amount of money for rich and powerful people. I think this would have a hugely positive effect on the economy too. As most of the women around the world choose to become slaves to rich and powerful men, young men would have the desire to work and study harder to move to the top of the hierarchy. It may cause a spike in sexism, but that's not an important issue. As powerful men decide to start their harems with multiple slaves, and women leaving the workforce, there would be a huge reduction in unemployment too.
Only certain companies that are regulated by the governments would be permitted to be the middleman between the slaves and the rich men. The money that was agreed on, would be heavily taxed. Without the using middleman service of these companies, slavery should be illegal.
In my opinion, consensual slavery should be legal. Before starting their journey, they should be given the right to choose which type of slave they're going to be -- and how long their slavery is going to last. It should be fully consensual, and both sides should be protected by the law. If the owners of the slaves, do more things than they agreed on, there should be extreme punishments, and if slaves wanted to quit before their time ends, they should face extreme punishments too. Slaves and owners should be rated after their service comes to an end.
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We are all slaves to ambition. All corporate slaves paying our masters with our labour. Time to throw off our chains brothers.
Aren't we all slaves to our human desires though (sex, fame, money, power, etc.)?
Sure. But, most of us don't sell pictures of our assholes for $5.
Actually I'm not a slave to sex and money, I only want prestige.
No surprise what you listed first there Pizz
you mean investment banking analysts?
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Why? Isn't choosing to be slave freedom of choice?
"Involuntary Servitude"
Interesting. Can we start punishing African-American criminals by forcing them to become slaves for the rest of their lives instead of wasting my tax dollars on feeding and clothing them in prisons?
isnt this basically what a job is? Thought the only diffrence with a slave was they get nothing in return. If you asked someone to go move cinder blocks around your yard 6 days a week i think people would call that a slave but offer them 800k a year and its a damn good job.
isn't slavery antithetical to freely being able to choose? Isn't the entire thing with slavery that you were forced to be a slave.
What you're saying essentially is legalised prostitution and servants.
How do you define porn stars then? Is sex for money different if it's filmed?
broski im not arguing for prostitution haha, im just pointing out a fallacy in what the poster is saying
Is this guy okay?
I'm pretty good, could have been better with a couple of slaves though...
Not being paid or given freedom or autonomy to choose is kind of the whole “thing” about slavery…
Slavery is basically legal in certain parts of the world. It doesn't appear to be working out too well for those countries.
Slavery is inherently involuntary. I think more people might be willing to be a servant or housekeeper. Those are existing professions. Anything similar to indentured servitude is highly unlikely to be practiced again in the west.
Slavery is more prevalent today in the world than it was pre-US Civil War. The lithium for the batteries in your phones and electric cars are mined with slave labor. The phones themselves along with the many other consumer products from companies like Nike are manufactured overseas are effectively made with slave labor in China. Chocolate used by Nestle and other major food producers is cultivated with slave labor. The stadiums constructed in Qatar for huge sporting events, majority slave labor. The only difference is people in the developed countries that benefit from these things ironically pretend to be progressive while in reality they don't give a fuck so long as it's kept out of sight and out of mind.
Slavery never went away, it just moved to more profitable locations and coverage from the media disappeared.
Not much different than the North/South divide pre-Civil War actually. It was only when slaves from the south escaped and were able to publish books that the general populace (not the limousine liberals) saw what was truly going on.
What is consensual slavery?
Work
If all work is consensual slavery, why have the debate?
I have to give this guy credit for one thing, he has actually convinced people to engage on this topic.
Yes, but only certain demographics can sign away their lives into slavery.
If you are at least 1/4 African, Native, Indian or Backwater Middle East (not Ivory Tower Middle East), LGBTQIA+ or disabled, yes.
If you are a 5'11 blonde hair blue eyed athletic woman, you should not be able to sign your perfect body and DNA away into slavery.
Everyone should have a chance to participate in slavery. There are many types of slavery that can benefit everyone.
Slavery exists, it's just no longer called slavery (unless we're taking about sex slaves)
It's just modern day indentured servitude -- i.e. Bangladeshi women making your clothes for pennies
'Kings' (with real power) for the most part don't exist in name anymore either. They're called dictators today or just leader (i.e. Xi Jinping)
These ideas will NEVER go away, merely change form & come under a different guise
Slavery has always been legal. Nowadays it's just called: minimum wage while rent is $1500+ a month, college tuition being 20k a semester and no universal healthcare
The difference is now the slaves are getting paid for their work
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Slavery in African and Middle Eastern countries isn't ethical. The slavery I want to be implemented would be fully consensual and paid. Kind of like a job, but with some extreme aspects to it. All of it would be on paper, protected by the government.
Don't be too pessimistic. The amount of money and networking WEF provides is ridiculous. There are not many people who would decline an offer from WEF. There's no point in declining the offer other than not betraying your principles. Humanity will continue to advance, but this won't happen fast enough with poor people having too much power. Even though I used to disagree with most of the policies of WEF, I realized that they're doing some things right. The uneducated people have too much money and power, by empathy and supporting each other these people have power to change the future in a bad way. Controlled opposition is the only way to safety and security. The only way to speed up the advancing process of humanity is to sedate people who will slow down the process. You may argue that how ethical it's, but that's the best thing to do. If you never tell them they're slaves, they will never realize it.
I mean slavery in the sense we usually use it in usually implies some kind of bondage which strips one of freedoms. Do you really mean that? Because sure you could make an existential argument that we are all slaves to our jobs or whatever but I'm sure that isn't what you were getting at.
Agreed - the definition of slavery = non consensual work.
Consensual slavery = consensual non consensual work, by the substitutive property
Which means consensual slavery = work, which implies slavery is already made legal.
Yep - absolutely asinine to infer that some kind of control version of slavery would be a viable form of work
Can we get one thing straight - these "Content creators" are going to get flushed when the market turns. I'm personally looking forward to observing how these and instagram hardos react.
I've done quite a bit of research on "influencer" economics. Effectively, the top 1% on any platform (IG / TikTok / etc) can make this a full time gig. At the lower end of this top 1%, an influencer usually makes ~$150-300k. Good money for sure, but when your position is predicated on looks which fade with time, you have a max 25yr lifespan of popularity on these platforms (though bear in mind many / most will be knocked off well before then given how hard it is to stay in the top 1%).
The 2nd percentile on these platforms makes markedly less, around 50-75k. Again it is decent supplementary income but not a primary source of income. And depending on how racy this gets, you are effectively making yourself unemployable in white collar work so in effect you are unable to really scale income past the 200k point (probably not even the 150k standpoint combining your thot income + your blue collar job income). Everyone below the 2nd percentile gets pennies.
What's important to realize is that no matter how many thots join these platforms, the percentages themselves never change. The 1% gain an outsized share of incremental users / followers so it really screws over the rest. In absolute terms there may be some more thots, but unless you can be the top 1% (even 2nd percentile is pointless as explained above) -- or even more demandingly in the top 0.5% -- there is no point trying to become an 'influencer'. Remember also that almost all those in the top 1% are either influencers full time (this being key) or celebrities (who are merely leveraging their existing advantages).
The one argument I could see against this is those influencers with cross-platform followership. However, this is extremely hard to do unless you're in the top 0.5%. For instance I know a thot with 1ml TikTok followers, yet she can't even break the 100k barrier on IG. To some extent these various mediums fragment & serve different purposes / utilities, but also people just don't care to follow you across all your channels (esp when the content is the same / similar). If you want to make the content different for each platform, just think about how enormous that is from a work standpoint. So there's not much leverage in doing this
Summing it up, the top 0.5% will continue to crush it. However, the bottom 99.5% of influencer thots will find it brutally hard, not make much money, and be quite disillusioned by the end of all this.
Thank you for your contribution.
Came here for the comments, ngl
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Truly a modest proposal
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