Is Life still fun after college?
I gradate very soon, but i feel like all the fun(parties, girls...etc) ends as soon as i collect my degree. am i wrong?
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life is what you make of it. I find the people who say life after college sucks were the bums who did nothing for 4 years. They only feel that way bcuz they actually have to stop being lazy pieces of shit for once, and do so in awful low-paying jobs cuz they did awful in UG and employers know how much of a risk they are.
If you actually worked in UG, after graduation you work similarly hard (unless IB i suppose) except u actually get paid for it now. Ppl party less not because they have to, but because believe it or not you will eventually get tired of competitively drinking and then being absolutely disabled all weekend
^ This X 100. I've also found that the people like your high school princpals who say "Guys, you'll never have a time of your life like this again" live sad lives. Ideally you should be peaking when you have a family and get to see your kids fly the coop and enjoy the fruits of your labor. One study I've seen said that adults' happiest decade was their 60s, followed by their 50s, and another recent one identified the happiest age as 33. I don't necessarily think that all of the people who don't enjoy life after college are lazy, but they romanticize and it leads to a very dangerous line of nostalgic thinking when people always act as though they're older than they really are. Trust me, I have an aunt much older than one of my parents who is in her late sixties and dresses like an 80-year-old, always moans about the past, and makes no attempt to "act young" or "feel young," not that I expect her to act like a 20 year old but there's a difference between acting middle-aged and acting like you're on life-support. Contrast this with somone like Nancy Pelosi (love her or despise her), who is in her 70s and not only looks good (plastic face aside) but is also active.
College may be a fun time, but it's also extremely repetetive. Do you really want to be doing the same thing for the rest of your life and get drunk every weekend? I also agree about the whole drinking and going out thing. I live with a 25 year old right now and I've found that mostly people don't go out as much just because they don't want to, it gets boring, immature, and it really does hurt your health if you're wasted every weekend. It's not quite what it's cracked up to be but since everyone in college does it, you do it. Just trust me when I say this: you know that feeling when you think back to how you thought and were just four years ago and you think to yourself "God, how was I so naive? I've learned so much since then." This process never stops in life, and I've been told this by many. Even when you're 60, you'll look back at your 40 year old self and say "God, I was so young and stupid." I know it's not exactly on topic but the point is that you'll always be growing, life will always be fun if you let it be fun, and sometimes, the best way to enjoy life is to not think about it too much. The more time you have to scrutinize yourself and whether you'll be happy in 5 years, the less time you'll actually be doing things in life and be too busy to scrutinize.
Yes, you are wrong
Parties depend on your friend set. Girls certainly don't get more conservative after college...
If you don't think like an 18 year old girl, life gets a lot better.
People say college makes for the best years in your life. I couldn't disagree more. The trick is not to get married at 23.
Were they the best years? Yeah probably. But I think your a quitter if you don't try to have even more fun afterwards once your making vastly more money.
Yes it is still fun
I still have a ton of fun. As for living in a crazy fraternity house - I fear, with high certainty, that it was the peak of life socially.
Not even fucking close. The 3 or 4 years right after college are infinitely better.
Living in NYC in your 20's is basically like being in college, except with later nights, hotter girls and better quality alcohol and food.
I think you guys are missing the waking up late part. Sleep is way underrated.
Its different. I loved college and to me it was a 4 year party. Did what i had to do to get by and just enjoyed myself (do regret it a bit). But its definitely something you get tired of, how many times can you go to the same 4 college bars or same house parties? After college hasn't been horrible either. The first 2 years I'd say was awesome, it reminded me of college with money. You and all your friends in NYC partying, going on vacations, doing whatever you want. Though I did miss partying until 4-5am and sleeping the whole next day instead of having to wake up for work.
Now I am 26 and go out a lot less. I have a girlfriend so there is no need to go out and try and get laid every weekend. Also don't like waking up every morning feeling death and prefer to focus more on working out in the gym. Can't really be hitting the gym or cardio in the morning if I am blacking out the night before.
x2 on this. Almost an identical situation, just a couple years younger.
It's def not the same, but still fun. Having money is a big plus, you can do things a lot bigger.
There's more to life than raging every weekend. When you graduate from college, youll still be friends with the people you were close too. That's what made college fun, was the experiences you had together. The alcohol just made it 2x as fun. But life goes on, time to get some scrilla.
When you start work, and making your own money, you can do things you never could before. I've murdered my bucket list since graduating, and paid for it with my own money, which made it 100% better than having my parents pay for it.
Life gets awesome if you want to make it awesome. But it can suck too. Atm mine sucks. (maybe because I'm a student again).
OP,
IMHO - this is nonsense, and, as somebody already said, life is what you make of it.
My partying days peaked in my mid- to late-twenties (I'm 30 at the moment). It even exceeded college - by a lot.
It's all about getting together the right crowd at your first long-term job, and doing stuff after work.....especially helpful if you work in a downtown area of a large city who's downtown is NOT 9-5 (good examples of these "lively" cities include NYC, Philly, Chicago, Boston, SF, maybe some others).
And NOW, unlike the college days, you actually have the cash to do stuff.
P.S. My first long-term job (where the partying peaked) was not in some large city, but rather in downtown Wilmington, Delaware.
Very funny! Lol
Actually, was a financial analyst for a global life insurance company. So...corporate-level, not really back office.
yes u wont be drinking as much
life is what you make it, i had that same thought too when i graduated and it depressed the hell out of me. set some dreams/goals for yourself that will make you happy, your ideal self / lifestylehave you, and go make it happen, whatever it takes. At 29 i'm having more fun now than ever but at the same time being more successful / productive then i have ever been in my life
It doesn't suck if you have the right girl to sit on your face if you know what i mean.
This thread went from really depressing to really awesome. Personally, I just turned 25 and think I have the best years ahead of me still. Sure, I still party hard like I did in college (albeit less), but I am looking forward to having the scratch to pursue my passions that I always put on the backburner when I was poor in college and had $10 for a 30-rack of Natty Light but not enough money to go skydiving, skiing, buy a motorcycle, or the things I was really interested in.
Work may suck, it may be awesome, but it will always be a means to an end to pursue my hobbies in life.
^wtf? lol. not u aempeiri, this got in late
aempirei,
Right on the money!
P.S. Love your profile pic! I'm in Philly.......
I agree with the people that think college isn't the best. I think college fucking sucks.
1) your grades are extremely important 2) you need to step the leadership/initiative/responsibility game WAY up from HS 3) job hunting 4) you are paying tens of thousands of $ to work your ass off.
I also hate people that try to live in the past/say high school was the best but really, HS is better for a few reasons:
1) academically its a joke 2) you are being compared to/competing against a bunch of retards as compared to people just as smart as you if not smarter in college 3) you have essentially no real responsibility 4) its easier and cheaper to get around i.e. you can get in a car with your friends and drive around causing mayhem and not really get in trouble 5) you dont have to live in a dorm or a shitty apartment
Only reason its worse it that girls are far more whorish in college.
And working is better because you are getting paid 6 figures to work very hard as opposed to PAYING 6 figures to work very hard.
Unless you are shoveling shit for 18 hours a day, how could anyone possibly think working an IB role is worse than college. even with 100 hour weeks.
Agree on some points, disagree on others.
My leadership thing was way bigger in high school, when it's really easy to become president of some club, than college, when I didn't give a rats ass anymore (I'm going BB btw). Also, I worked wayyyy less in college than hs. I had 19 AP courses (some online obviously) in high school and did a bunch of extracurriculars. To me, the mentality was all about working your ass off to get into a great school, and then once you're in the great school, enjoying your four years and everything tends to work itself out as long as you try in classes. Obviously it's not that simple, but I was perfectly content with getting an A- or B+ here and there in college. In high school? Not so much. You can make up for having ~3.5 GPA as opposed to a 3.9-4.0 easily in college job hunting during the interview. In hs, if you didn't have a great unweighted GPA, that really put you at a disadvantage for top schools. In college I just slacked off a lot more. That may be the minority, but that's just my perspective.
Agree with FusRoDah. High school was awesome. Way less drinking and partying than in college, but academic pressure was virtually nonexistent (my grades didn't really matter because i knew i could use sports to get into a good school), financial pressure was nonexistent, and there was no worrying about getting that summer internship or that postgrad job. I just goofed off pretty much all the time.
It depends if you're reasonably successful or not. If you have a crap load up disposable income, then life is pretty awesome, and much better than college. If I didn't have as much extra money as I do now, then college > real world.
The only ways college was better were 1) Lack of responsibility - Outside of studying for exams / doing papers, I can do whatever I want with my time. In the real world you have to be places at certain times. You can blow off studying / writing a paper to the next day, you can't blow off work to the next day. You can show up hungover to classes (or not even show up), while you can't at work.
2) Proximity - Friends and girls (your age) were everywhere and in a close proximity. Also they typically went to the same restaurants / bars / parties / etc. In the real world, unless you're in a small town / city, it's almost impossible to bump into your friends unless you planned on it
3) Expectations - You're expected to not just talk about how hot that girl last night was, or whatever band is playing on Thursday, or how much your History professor blows. You have to actually pick up on the news, art, culture, hobbies, etc.
Otherwise, the real world is pretty good
Somehow I don't think it gets more fun than living in a frat house with all your boys and the hottest girls on campus drunken with freedom coming over to go out and party every night... but I could be wrong.
The girls put out much easier after college. My wildest days were from 24 to 28. After that, the hangovers and 3 hours sleep hurt too bad. The people who "remember their wild college days" are mostly nerds who need to join a club, frat, or e-harmony to get pussy. In the working world, you will see these nerds in their 30's at office Christmas parties with girls who obviously cheat on them. Just giving you a heads up.
25 is the new 18. Embrace it. Your life is about to get much more exciting.
So long as you move to a big city upon graduation (ie. LA, NYC, Chicago etc.).
But what do I know? I'm only a junior in college.
Life is fun without college.
You must be trolling like a pro. However, I'll give it a shot:
Life gets better. 1) You have more money 2) younger girls will want to sleep with you 3) cougars will hunt you down 4) you have your own place 5) You'll eat better 6) A weekend trip to Europe doesn't require you to save the whole year. 7) Your asshole friends will crash and burn
I liked college (had a part time job, held public office, studied 40+hours a week, played college sports), but nothing beats 'the real world.' Sure, paying your bills isn't cool, but I'd take that over any frat party now.
SB'd just for point #7 - so true and satisfying to see
bump
As long as their is coke on the table, life is good
Cut it out with the doom & gloom shit.
Like anything in the World (including undergrad), life after Ugrad will be what you make it. If you were a total nerd in UG and wasted all your time studying for that "perfect GPA that will make everything better", life after college will probably be comparatively better for you. If you love partying and going on benders Thurs-Sat nights, probably not going to be a lot of that going on (esp if you're going to be grinding significant hours). UG is just another phase of life that gives you materials to develop yourself. Don't forget these, but don't be a nostalgic whiner 24/7.
Personally, there was no better time than my Sophomore year of college (before I started working 25+ hours/week during school) partying my tits off 4 days a week living in the frat house with babes. That was me and that's what I'm into.
For all of you in UG still, whatever you do...Whatever. You. Do. DO NOT make excuses to not enjoy your college experience. If you claim you "don't have enough time" , "need work on the GPA", or "have to spend time with the girlfriend", you have just listed three of the most common excuses to not enjoying college. There are 168 hours in a week dudes. This is plenty to get done what needs to be done, with ample room to enjoy yourself. Not saying you have to drink, do drugs, slam chicks, be in a frat (although highly encouraged while you can afford to be irresponsible) to enjoy UG. Just know that grad school is not the same, you only get one chance at UG, and the real world has drawbacks.
You seem like you need some direction/comfort. I encourage you to read this article at least once a day for the next week. Don't skim it like it's a damn investments text book either. Read it, digest it, and reflect on it. Live in the moment.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527023048113045773663324004537…
To the class of 2012! Cheers to beers
College is only the best years of your life if you didn't do anyhting but party and then have no skills, network etc and end up working a 9-5 shop in a shitty customer service type role. But if you actually did something in college and made a good career move, yes life is still fun after college
I would say once you start working, usually it is a structured schedule. In college you can do skip class or go to class hungover. Because of this, college in a sense is a lot more spontaneous. On the weekdays, I have been on so many random roadtrips during college which would be impossible as a working professional.
Life After College (Originally Posted: 12/21/2010)
Anyone have advice or good resources (websites, guides, etc.) for life after college (in regards to budgeting, first time renting/homebuying, etc.)?
I'll be working in consulting in LA and any insight is appreciated.
Give Mint.com a try for budgeting purposes.
build up a reserve in the first few months your on your own. there are going to be emergencies, there are going to be things you didnt consider. You dont want to be paying for those things on your credit card
if your budgetting for the year, consider the effect of payroll deductions on monthly cashflow. just cause you wont end up paying taxes for the year due to tuition credits doesnt mean the government isn't going to tax you during the year.
try to establish a line of credit, they usually have lower rates of interest than credit cards and are more substantial.
if your company is providing some sort of moving pkg. try to max out every benefit imaginable. A lot of companies give gross amounts ($10,000 cash) while others provide services/amenities. If its the latter max it out as the majority of the benefits are non-taxable. When I moved out, my company arranged for up to 4 months living at a hotel until i found my place. Guess when I moved out?
Thanks. Any other advice guys?
Is Life After College Still Enjoyable? (Originally Posted: 02/28/2016)
I have had three concussions during my time as a college student, recovering from my third now. One concussion per year (I'm a junior now) has left me not getting to experience college. I'm an extroverted person but I have had to take myself out of social situations and isolate myself to my studies so I can heal.
These are the so called best years of anyones life, but I feel like I didn't even get to experience them. These have been the worst years of my life all thanks to my concussions. I know investment banking hours are tough, but is there still time to have a social life after work (ie hitting up bars in nyc, etc)?
how much is your recovery time limiting your college experience and in what ways? just curious as to what you feel like you're missing out on.
Just feel like I'm missing out on the social scene.
When I say social scene I should probably clarify it as drinking with friends and meeting new people. I can't go out because I can't drink nor risk getting injured again since my brain is pretty sensitive during the healing process. When I get a concussion, i'm usually out for the full school year and just spend that time ensuring I get good grades.
Have you been wearing your helmet?
Easy to joke about from a computer. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.
Honestly, what are you doing that you've had 3 concussions that were major enough to need to recovery time? Do you play football or hockey? I had a few minor concussions when I played football and did what are now called extreme sports in my youth but I never needed more than a few days to be back to full speed.
To answer everyones questions in one comment: My school is a bar school that doesn't party too hard (non-target). I get plenty of pussy so there's no issue there. I got my first concussion from a metal door slamming against my head, second from getting a basketball thrown at my head where my head then hit a wall too, third from someone cracking me in the back of the head with a Nalgene bottle. All of these instances happened within a few months from the previous. Also I played hockey in HS so maybe that did something too.
oh word you're having sex. that's chill. what do you think you're missing out on, then?
college party scene is whatever, bars are a lot of fun and there are tons of young professionals who need stress relief from 70 hour work weeks (read: more sex after college). I'm a senior right now, turned 21 half a year ago, and college has been the same. I figured that being legal to drink would make college fantastic or that I was missing something, but I'm broke and have few 21 year old friends, so it hasn't changed much.
Personally, I'm looking forward to graduation and "adult fun", because all of that requires money, and with an IB gig, you'll probably have enough money to enjoy your free time when you get it. Your newfound financial independence (unless you feel like you have tons of cash right now in college) will open up a lot of opportunities for you and you will enjoy yourself.
TL;DR I don't think you've missed much except for drinking with 18 year olds and will enjoy your years out of college
"My school is a bar school that doesn't party too hard (non-target). " That's not what non-target means.....
How the fuck did you get three concussions while in college? Unless you you are playing a serious contact sport I find this to be odd.
Adult life fucking sucks. Mortgages, divorces, diapers (first your kids, then you), balding, growing waistline, high cholesterol, all sorts of bullshit. I wouldn't care if I had 9 concussions in three weeks in college, I'd still party my balls off.
I swear, the only thing that keeps me going these days is the four hander at the local AMP.
Adult life only sucks if you make it suck. All the things you mentioned can be avoided.
I haven't been out of school for too long, but life after college has been even more fun than life in college so far.
Put the three concussions on your resume
Those dirty hippies are using the Nalgene bottles as weapons now?? I used to think the only dangerous thing about Nalgene bottles was all the estrogens from the BPA, yikes.
I went to a non-target part school, life was great, definitely the best 4 years of my life. I must say though, the first few years out of school were pretty damn fun as well. I didn't work in Ibanking so I had plenty of free time, lived with roommates and most friends from both HS and college lived in NYC or the surrounding. The weekends were one big party and it was nice to actually have a little bit of money for a change. Took a bunch of trips and enjoyed life has much as I could, you only get one shot. Waking up monday - friday was awful, but you need to make some sacrifices.
Now, once all your friends move in with their girls, get married or have kids...that is when the fun stops.
Life post college is great in a big city, lots more to do and you actually have money to spend. Get a good friend group, date a bit, work hard most importantly, and you'll love your post college life.
And umm, I got three concussions minimum in college playing sports. You're not going out to let your brain heal? What is it with kids these days?
Life after college CAN be fun, but it will be up to you to make it so. You're not going to get thrust into a scenario where everyone around you is your age, adventurous, and unattached like in college; you'll actually have to work to meet people once you've relocated.
If you've got a decent enough job, though-you'll enjoy no longer being a broke undergrad. And being able to afford travel on a consistent basis or certain specialized activities has allowed me to expand my group of friends exponentially and geographically, which made the rest of my 20s pretty damned fun. And grad school was the cherry on top.
But as a previous poster said-once your friends all start shacking up, having kids, and getting married don't expect them to stick around. Married folks seem to only hang out with other married folks and when they do invite you the conversation more often than not revolves around their kids or their marriages. That's when life takes a dull turn. So figure 6-8 more years of fun after college...22-30. Then we've all got to grow up a bit.
This statement somewhat depresses me but it also makes me question some things a bit. Even though you had this situation, I still feel like most college kids I ran into were very judgmental and choosy about their friends. Now I went to a school with a pretty big Greek Life scene and it seems like if you weren't in certain fraternities as a guy or playing a sport, you weren't really allowed to engage in a lot of the fun parties or go on fun vacations with fun people. To an extent, it felt quite a lot like high school.
I felt like the kids who were having the fun social life in college were the ones who actually put effort into it.
After college I found that though you didn't have the same circumstances, people actually started to open up to you more. Girls who would have likely ignored you in college due to judgment of their sorority sisters were now a bit more open minded. Guys who would have never hung out with you due to what their clique might have thought were now giving you a chance and asking to hang out with you.
Then again you're hearing all of this from a guy who didn't get to enjoy his college experience as much socially despite giving his all. Mainly because he had no idea just how big Greek Life is on some college campuses.
god damn y'all are depressing me
idk about you but imma be that ugly af 60 year old with a 21-year-old bombshell on his arm
Seriously? Let's start with not living on a shoe string budget. Actually experiencing what the world has to offer, let alone with your significant other and/or lifelong friends. I remember the first time I had a woman fly out to see me from abroad, just a spontaneous trip/rendezvous, and I just remember it hitting me like a wall - what the fuck? Point being, a shitty college bar, or shitty vodka at a frat party barely registers as a memorable experience. But I can definitely recount the former and many other experiences as the time of my life. In 5 years you will barely be able to tolerate college students if and when they cross your path.
only read the title
life can get wayyy better after college, if you do it right
My university was your typical Division 1A school, the social vibe was very "bro" type and it was also in a somewhat conservative part of the country. Now I did transfer in which I am sure affected my social life but I put myself out there. I tried my hardest and improved myself socially no matter what but I still feel like I missed out on a lot due to not going Greek. Going Greek at my university wasn't exactly that easy either, a lot of the better fraternities preferred legacies or guys who already knew guys in the house when coming in. Getting a bid as a transfer was difficult for most of the big houses, the ones that did give bids were TKE and houses along those lines but those guys just played videogames on weekends which wasn't exactly my thing.
When I say that Greek Life ran my university's social scene, I mean that being Greek was in most cases a per-requisite even if you wanted to enjoy some of the social benefits outside of Greek Life.
Leadership positions in major campus organizations? Dominated almost exclusively by Greeks.
Wanted a job as a bartender or at the bars in the college town? Jobs almost exclusively went to sorority sisters or pledge leaders in fraternities.
I did make some friends regardless of my circumstances as I have always been a social person but I was just saying how this whole "it will never be easier than college" mentality just isn't as true as some here claim. Now if you went to a more open minded university or one in a big city then it might be true for you. I found that Greek Life at my school, in many ways, brought the cliquish high school vibe over to college which made it difficult to make friends with the more fun crowd that loved partying and having a nice time. I found it a lot easier to make friends with that crowd after college when they weren't so attached to their fraternities.
The more money you make & the more free time you have the more life becomes enjoyable.
I still pinch myself some weekends post grad life where there is no homework, projects or studying. Although there is always shit to be done at work its nice to be able to leave it there whereas school work hangs over your head even on weekends.
Even though you have lot less free time working the free time you do have truly is free.
If college is the best time of your life, you're doing life incorrectly. College was fun, mind you, but come on...
The one appealing aspect of college, on paper at least, is the fact that you are around so many people in the same age group as you who want to do things like have fun, party, and experiment with fun new things (thought finding such people was hard at the university I went to). The idea of having fun, occasionally partying, and most importantly being around so many people who enjoy that kind of life is very appealing to me.
Unfortunately, it does seem like after 25 everyone is "over it" and ready to "grow up" :(
What's worse is the people who didn't have a good undergrad experience and become extreme try hards to compensate for it after they graduate.
If you're 25 and still bragging about how much you drink and every story is how you and your boys always get into a bunch of fights (but oddly enough, never a bunch of girls' pants) on nights out, you're just a richer version of the two guys from Step Brothers.
Gonna be honest here, this is so me though I did have some success with girls thanks to apps like Tinder and Hinge. I find myself bragging about this to my friends to where it does drive some of them away. While my friends who did have an amazing undergrad experience are now married before 25, I just do not see myself ever getting married at all. I just find myself spending time traveling to fun wild locations, partying when I get the chance, sleeping around a lot instead of pursuing quality long term relationships, and hanging out with guys who are in their mid to late 20s but still have the mindset of the stereotypical fraternity brother at a party school.
I have to say, missing out on the "college experience" of making friends with a group of people your age going through the same things as you, enjoying things like partying with them, and some wild nights just does a number on some guys.
Honest enough to admit it to myself here but if a cure or fix for guys like me existed, I would work towards it because at this rate I can see myself being like this well into my 30s while everyone else has already settled down and started families.
What has been everyone's best part of their lives?
Really depends. Some firms all you'll be able to do is sleep, on others you'll have a protected weekend so you'll be able to get drunk.
That said you really want to have an awesome, party filled lifestyle you're in the wrong job.
In the generic sense it's all relative. Keep in mind that there's also a LOT of us who missed out for different reasons. I went to a service academy so I completely missed out on the normal "college" experience as did all my peers who went to state military colleges. Some people had to work during college to pay for it.
After college it's going to vary drastically. I enjoyed my time because I was in a medium sized city, and in some of my jobs I was able to party hard on some weekends and enjoy the outdoors on others. Others sucked ass to the point where all I could do on weekends was make up sleep.
Just like during college, life after college is a combination of both your circumstances and what you make out of those circumstances.
My first full calendar year in the real world was more fun than all four years of college combined for me.
Maybe because I didn't really enjoy college until say senior year (when I finally had money in my pocket, thanks SA-ship...) I'm biased though.
Having a job that's interesting and getting paid is incomparably better than college. No matter how amazing your college years were, having them be the best years of your life sounds terribly depressing.
That feel when graduating college without having dated or had sex. Otherwise it's been decently fun, went to my fair share of parties and had decent memories and adventures. Nothing too outlandish though.
First post: "I've had three concussions during my time as a college student, recovering from my third now. One concussion per year has left me not getting to experience college.."
Few posts later: "[Details to all three concussions]. All of these instances happened within a few months from the previous."
This is a funking odd post, but anyhow...
College was awesome, lack of responsibility will never be the same. Sleeping in every day of the week, getting whacked at the most random and spontaneous moments, handful of sexy college girls trying to get it, hearing about working 80+ hrs a week and being blissfully ignorant to what it's actually like, weekend trips visiting friends at other colleges across the country, formals, non sketchy drug dealers, the list goes on and on...
But fucking a, you graduate school grab a solid job in NYC (or any major market) and you're on top of the world. Still relatively little responsibility, limitless selection of restaurants and bars, culture, girls of all different backgrounds from across the country that don't know or talk to each other. Freedom. It may take some getting use to - but now you are in charge of what you do, when you do it and how you do it. Fly wherever the funk you want, bone whoever you want, gamble your lifesavings if you wish. I bought my condo last year. I own a piece of awesomeness in the greatest city in the world. You can't fucking beat that feeling man. Don't be scared you're missing out on college, you have your whole life ahead of you. I will advise, however, quit fucking banging your head.
I hope you're right about post college life, although I don't have the best post graduation job (but pretty good nonetheless). SB for you
Just to be clear here though, as someone who loves the idea of making fun friends and partying with a group of fun people as well as hot girls, was college the last chance for that?
No, it's not the last chance (see the lifestyle of any playboy), but it'll be harder since 1) people have careers, 2) the fun stuff gets more expensive, and 3) people will be settling down at various points.
When you're in college the fun was probably down the street and if you knew someone you were in. In the real world "fun" is hopping on a flight to Rio on a whim or getting a penthouse suite in Vegas or doing Yacht Week.
That's stereotypical fun, hence the quotes. I think it's more fun to do mundane things with cool people than cool things with people you don't mesh with. If you have a good group of friends, lounging around someone's loft is fun, even though it won't get all the Instagram likes.
i hate when people say stuff like "college should be the best time of your life", it jsut simply not true. The people who say that I find dont have any passions in life and so what they considered the best time of their life was just getting hammered day in and day out on cheap booze.
Yea the thinking is that after college there are more sources of stress: less time to do things, bills to pay, rent, saving for future, progressing in your career etc etc.
However, stress is alwasy relative, I think back now to high school and think how stress free it was, but in reality at the time we were all stressing about grades and the next test/homework assignment and college applications. That maths test seems like pointless now, but at the time you were stressing about. Historical stress often gets remembered incorrectly. So I think the idea that stress increases is a bit of fallacy, we all adjust to the stress at hand at any point.
There are a huge amounts of positives after college: -its a great feeling to be completely self sufficient, and you can travel where you want and do waht you want. Yes you have less time, but you still ahve time to have great experiences as long as you have a good friendship group -Its great having your own place, and can date properly etc, not just 20 yo college girls that spend their nights woo'ing and only caring about their instagram followings
Ultimately, it always comes down to who you are with. I am lucky that my best friend works in the same office, and we both live close to each other, and so we are constantly surrounding by a close friends group.
The one thing I would also point out, the one thing i almost didnt enjoy at college is that everyday feels like a weekend, so ultimately it loses its luster, whereas when you are working you get really pumped for a fri/sat night out or party and can really enjoy it. The dichotomy is what makes you enjoy it. Its like always living on the beach vs seeing a beach for a week a year, same principle.
The key is that you dont just go through the motions, its easy working long hours to just go to work come home and repeat. You have to make sure you say yes to things.
SB'd. Look back on college and its glorious memories with appreciation but don't dwell on them. Regretting or missing passed moments will lead you to ruin. Sure, I have regrets from college (not banging more girls, dating too much, try something entrepreneurial) but it's not like I can't pursue these in the real world. I just got back from Carnaval in Rio and it was the tits. I can tell you there's a lot of fun still to be had and I sure as hell don't plan on college being the best years of my life. Otherwise the future is pretty bleak.
Thinking more about this, I think that what a lot of people miss about college (I know I do) is the camaraderie and in some cases the validation that comes with it. For example, being on the sports team and going out with your boys knowing that you could party, have fun, and getting some hot girls along the way. Same with being in a higher status fraternity on campus which meant going out with your boys, having fun partying, throwing the fun parties, and knowing you could get most hot girls because of it. It is hard to describe but I think that is what make college the peak for some people.
Even if getting hot girls and partying wasn't your thing, it could have been working for a philanthropy
Now in the real world, this type of camaraderie just doesn't seem to exist.
You can go to some random parties but it is different when you aren't doing it with people who you have that sense of mutual bond with. My dating life got a lot better after college as well but I was more so on my own when it came to getting girls as opposed to having that large social circle.
I think it is that big community, camaraderie, brotherhood/sisterhood, and validation aspect of college that so many people seem to miss.
I agree with you. I did an off-cycle internship in a new city and the experience of going out was completely different.
In college, you see tons of familiar faces when you go to parties/bars. There's a good chance that you've seen them around before or have mutual friends, and there's the common factor of going to the same school. People don't feel like complete strangers and you know that they're in your age group. Like you said, you also have your boys with you with that makes you feel a lot more comfortable.
Whenever I went out during my internship, it was always with colleagues. Sure, I got along with them well, but it's different from your friends back in college. I couldn't let my guard down and had to always watch what I was saying because these were the people I worked with. It's also strange going to bars and knowing no one there. Although I prefer the former, it wasn't a bad experience at all. I got much more comfortable striking up conversations with random girls and learned to drink without getting completely shit faced.
Funny thing is, I actually think this makes it a lot easier for handsome guys with game to do well after college with hot girls because the hot girls are being suffocated by their social circles. Put it however you want but if you look like Chris Hemsworth (minus the fame) and you go bar hopping in a college town, the chances of you scoring with a good looking girl (who will very likely be in a sorority) are dramatically lower than they would be if you were in NYC.
That is what gets me about this nonsense of how it is so easy to score with hot girls in college, ya, if you're on the football team, a high status fraternity, and she knows who you are. College girls don't really give it up for random guys, well at least not the college girls guys want to hook up with. The presence of Greek Life at a lot of big school practically guarantees that unless you are an athlete, involved in Greek Life, or very close to some fraternity brothers, you won't be having much luck.
I noticed this after college, some of the sorority sisters that ignored me in university were giving off some strong and obvious signs of wanting to get with me once they were away from the campus. It's like once they got out of college, they actually went for guys they were attracted to as opposed to guys their sisterhood told them to be attracted to.
Word of advice to all older guys on here, do not try to game good looking girls in college towns, you will likely be met with fierce animosity if the school has a strong Greek Life scene.
I don't even know where to begin with this. The reason you didn't get laid in college was because you say/write things like "handsome guys." I don't mean that in a homophobic way at all (some of my best friends and family are gay and my best wing men in college and post college single days were gay dudes and this was 20 years ago when gay wasn't as cool as it is today-hint to single guys, make friends with gay dudes, they are by far the best wing men ever) but handsome? Are you my grandmother? As for your line about going back to college towns and gaming girls post college-not something I have done for >15 years-my first job out of college was in SF and one of my roommates went to Chico St. If you could typify a place dominated by hot not so intelligent girls with a strong Greek system where they party hard, it was Chico. I'd go back there with him and it was like shooting fish in a barrel. Throwing game to sorority girls about being a "______" (they didn't know what the fuck I did anyway, I could have said astronaut) in SF and perhaps they could come down and see me in a couple of weeks was like offering free rock to a crackhead. Now that would just be creepy at my current age, but at 23-26 you'd have to be an idiot with no social skills to not make that work.
Regarding this thread overall, coming from someone who's older than most people on here, college can and should be a fucking blast and when you graduate at 22 it should have been the time of your life by that point (high school should have been as well, see Dazed and Confused for a more cinematic point of view on why it and college shouldn't have been the best time of your life). Then your 20's can or should be the time of your life. Same with your 30's. I'll let you know about the 40's but so far after a couple of years in my fifth decade, pretty fucking cool. All for absolutely different reasons. College was awesome because, for most people, you're away from your parents with thousands of other 18-22 year olds playing life but not really living it with full responsibilities. You should have friendships like you're not going to have again because you won't be in that space again and be able to party til dawn for a few nights in a row. Or sit around sober and naively (and I mean that in a good way) talk philosophy and political theory with both like minded and not like minded peers in your study lounge until the wee hours because that will never happen again. Your 20's are great because you're on your own, making money (hopefully good money if you're in a career that most are or hope to be in on WSO) in a big city making friends and your way in the world. You can afford to travel and not with a backpack (big fucking difference, not necessarily better though). Nail random women and not have it come back to bite you in the ass because she's an ADPi and you're going to see her the next day at lunch and her sisters are going to give you the evil eye because you pulled a money shot. In your later 20's and into your 30's you're progressing in your career, making more money, feeling professionally accomplished and maybe you met a partner/got married/had kids (if that floats your boat, maybe you're just making lots of money and bedding ever hotter women/men and the age delta is increasing every year as you get older and they stay the same age). Later 30's/early 40's maybe you're seeing your kids grow up, you've made a smaller group of really good friends and at that point in your life those things are awesome. Or you're nailing really, really hot 25 year olds, own sports cars and boats and have a Marquis card. Maybe you're my neighbor who has nocturnal emissions over the perfect state of his lawn. Whatever gets you through the night.
Regardless of the stage of your life you make it. No one dictates it. You will hit walls, shit will happen, you may want to say it's because I wasn't a Greek, I didn't go to XYZ school, this person dumped me, I did/didn't get this job or even this person died. Anything and everything could happen-as a 40 year old I can attest to the fact that it has. Shit I never would have thought, good, bad and absolutely devastating has happened. Own it. Make it you, figure out how to take advantage of the good, recover from the bad and deal with the devastating. And then take all of that shit and make a life that you want and will be happy with. At every stage of your life.
This guy fucks
It's surprising to see how big this thread got. I appreciate all the comments good/bad.
Life after college is better, at least for me. You've got money, youth, and some respect from the community, plus you have REAL autonomy and true independence that you don't have in college. Social scene is just different but the girls are still hot.
Handsome?
Get the fuck outta here.
One thing I will point out since this thread was on the front page, for some reason I am running into way more hot girls after college than in college and this despite going to a party school.
if you equate "fun" to "amount of $ in the bank" - yes if you equate "fun" to "years until death" - no
The painful reality of graduation (Originally Posted: 03/15/2015)
Fellow second years, believe it or not, graduation is not too far away. It hit me this past week that it's almost over, and I'm slipping into quasi-depression. No more epic traveling and parties with dozens of classmates, waking up at noon with no responsibility, doing whatever the hell I want without a boss breathing down my neck.
How are you guys coping with this? I am so not looking forward to re-entering the real world, which sucks ass.
Then don't get a job, why did you even bother with b-school? it's that simple.
'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
Amen brother. Amen. I would've kicked myself in the balls if I did not attend. I would've been 70 years old and thinking about what I missed out on by not going. YOLO4LYFE!
soooooooooooooo goddamn right!!! +10 bananas if I have them
soooooooooooooo goddamn right!!! +10 bananas if I have them
Got an epic Summer of (more) traveling abroad planned, so I'll be going out with a bang-hopefully the memories sustain me once I'm stuck in that cubicle. I've taken about 8-9 trips since I started school, and got more than enough memories to help me get through any slow days. I think I'll work on a book or something-too many crazy stories.
To be frank ,I'm ready to start making some $$$ again, anyway. The MBA bubble also gets kind of old-tired of reading cases and playing CEO in class when most of us will be lucky to be decent middle managers. Even more annoying listening to the mostly unrealistic career plans people seem to have at this point. Folks are projecting 10-15 yrs. out, Jesus. Makes me wonder what MBAs graduating back in early 2007/2008 were thinking.
It was a fun 20 months-worth it in every respect- but 2 yrs. was enough and there's still more out there...
I am going to miss getting out of bed late, though.
I feel like 7-8 of your 8-9 trips were all to the same place haha
Don't get me wrong. I do miss having positive cash flow. But the way I see it, you can always make money; b-school however is a once in a lifetime experience, which is a major reason I signed up for it. Student loans are scary, but I have ZERO regrets.
I agree with you that certain aspects of b-school have gotten tiresome, mainly the boring classes and group projects. I REALLY hate working in groups, so that might've been one of the worst parts of b-school. I also felt that many of the courses were poorly taught and didn't equip us with enough hard skills that can be directly applied in the workforce.
I will remember b-school until I die (unless I get alzheimer's). Marriage and having kids (ugh) will pale in comparison to b-school in terms of pure raw fun, excitement, unpredictability, and euphoria.
I wold love to swap mba war stories with you sometime. I'm sure Tuck was NUTS! I unfortunately missed winter carnival, but bunch of my classmates went and had a blast.
wow who would have thought that self-hyping something as the greatest years of your life while the rest of your life is pathetic would lead to depression
what's everyone doing after graduation workwise?
Received, thanks.
I don't think it's possible to derail a Brady thread as they are all inherently train wrecks.
I'm ready to move on as well. These last few months will be great; plenty of darts, day drinking, and blowing off class (mostly) still lies ahead, but I landed the job I wanted, at the firm I wanted, so I'm eager to get started. Not so eager I chose a June start date, but eager enough to eschew a September option and pick July. Let's get the next chapter started!
Undergrad was the time of my life, but that time has come and passed. I would honestly feel ridiculous acting like that again, so I kind of chuckle at it from the MBA guys.
You don't like having fun, meeting new people, bonding, and traveling?
Yeah I feel you man. It really sucks because my start date is early June which leaves me no time to travel/do anything fun before starting FT. In the past my bank started in July but they decided to fuck with everybody's schedule this year.
@"TheGrind" What's the plan after graduation? I am guessing you are going back to Texas where you were during the summer. Can you not choose a start date in Aug/Sept so that you can have a few more months to have fun? (I know that Consulting firms allow you to start in Sept)
@"mbavsmfin" What are you doing after graduation?
@"Virginia Tech 4ever" @"companion"
You guys are absolute clowns - I will bet that somewhere deep inside you regret not doing well in college, and getting that better job you could have gotten.
Do you guys feel better by posting on anonymous message board about how much "fun" you had in college?
watch it rookie, VT4E is a bsd, pretty sure he doesn't regret any of what you mentioned
Will spend the Summer traveling before heading to work sometime in September. Couldn't turn down Texas; my all in comp will be a mint down there. I'll also remain close enough to my favorite Central American areas to do the occasional 3 or 4 day weekend on the cheap.
You should probably re-read what we both wrote. Both of us said that we both turned away from our wayward ways. I don't know how you got that we were bragging about it. I believe I called my partying days aimless and companion said he "woke up" and turned things around.
As far as my career, I got a few lucky breaks early on in my professional career that rendered my undergraduate days more or less moot. With that said, I wouldn't recommend my lifestyle or performance to most people because most people can't count on lucky breaks.
When you posted this, did you even consider how hypocritical it was in context of you and Brady's circle jerk to the ability to 'wake up at noon with no responsibilities"?
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On the bright side, you can always get an advanced degree later on and be a student again? That's the plan here: academia. Glad you had a great time but really, don't be one of those people that gets stuck comparing the rest of their life to a short period of time.
Besides, once you have some decent money, you can have serious fun. Maybe not for 20 months straight, but here and there you'll have time off so plan for it. I just spent six days traveling and basically lit up an island with my buddies. In a few months I'll go on safari. Next month I'm doing three shows. I haven't done b school yet so I can't compare but that's kind of the point.. you have to have fun every chance you get.
In the long run, we're all dead. You, me, we're all going to die someday. Bust your ass when you have to, then enjoy the ride the rest of the time. I'll stop talking now.
Just my $0.02 :)
LOL did patrick add the topic picture? brilliant
+1 to last 2 posts...as in you got SBs.
I'm not quite sure where the "no responsibilities for two years" part comes in. Most MBA students I talk to are busy as fuck, at least in the first year.
Assuming your doing the consulting/finance thing and don't fuck up while recruiting....It's really only one quarter of responsibility (2nd half of fall trimester, and 1st half of winter trimester), The other 5 trimesters are extremely easy. I'm "busy" but that's because I made a ton of social obligations. If I wanted to sleep and play video games 20 hours a day, it would be possible.
That said, recruiting season is the most exhausting and stressful thing I've ever done in my life.
@"UFOinsider" @"StJamesPark" @"The Stranger" @"Virginia Tech 4ever"
Can't wait to get to an MBA business schools">M7 school in the near future and have the best 2 years of my life like Brady and TheGrind!!! Also can'y wait to never hear from losers like you guys, lol!
I was a FOB Asian international student in college, and I hadn't discovered my inner alpha male - but I have discovered it now. I can't wait to go to B School and slay chicks left and right. Maybe I'll even meet up with my hero @"mbavsmfin" to get pointers on going hunting in B School. I will definitely wear my B School logo fleece around all the time, and wear a school t shirt when I go running.
Also, Newcastle United absolutely sucks. @"St James Park" - are you not embarrassed everyday that your team sucks and is lower on the points table than Stoke!!! and Swansea!!!
Manchester United forever! The greatest team in the history of this universe!
Another Brady alternate account?
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