Undergrad: College Decision
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Wake up, even though you might think oppositely, $3000 is nothing in grans scheme of things
Yeah I agree, 3k in tuition per year vs $0 is almost nothing generally speaking. I would hope a Cornell alum or student offers insight into the differences b/w the hotel school vs AEM & whether the outcomes and academic classes are different. That seems something important you should figure out.
I'll be heading to Cornell this week to check out the programs there.
Cornell
Never understood the hype around Cornell. It's definitely the odd one out of the ivies and Notre Dame is a fantastic school in its own right. Go to whichever you like better.
PM me if you want to know more about Cornell Hotel for IB.
I made a throwaway account to respond to this. I'm a Notre Dame alum and I came to this thread to tell you go to to Cornell until I read that you'll be working in the investment office. Find out what role they'll have you be doing there, because if its a front office role (which I assume it is since they've already offered it to you) this is actually a pretty big deal. Or endowment is around ~10B and the guy in charge is very highly respected/would be a great contact to have (Scott Malpass). He used to teach an advanced investment class to the top Finance majors around ~3 years ago and I heard he really looks out for his students. If he thought you were a promising student I heard that he would personally call the heads of banks/funds that he knows and recommend you. The class was almost impossible to get in to but people in that class were almost guaranteed to get top wall street jobs after graduation - and I know one guy who I believe went directly from undergrad to a HF. Working with him and having the experience in the investment office from your freshman year imo easily beats what Cornell has to offer.
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Can't respond to your pm on this account but based on what you've said 100% choose ND. Working with him and having him as a contact will be priceless. Cornell probably has a little better IB recruiting but all the BBs and many EBs recruit from ND and you'll have countless opportunities from your freshman year to recruit/network/do projects with them.
The decision is basically regular student at Cornell vs. ND with year long internships in an investment analyst position starting your freshman year in a $10B endowment with a highly respected professional with a track record of reaching out to his contacts to help his students.
Being in that program at ND is definitely the better option to Cornell.
Also, ND will probably be a lot more fun.
Just want to echo what was said here. ND alum and I know Scott well. Nothing against Cornell really, but the chance to get to know Scott early on and get that experience is worth an unbelievable amount. PM if you want to know more.
I'll never understand these threads, especially ND vs. XYZ. ND isn't a school, it's a tribe. You either love it or hate it. OP obviously is drinking the koolaid
ND is a target school and had great recruiting. I think Cornell is better, but only if you don't like a catholic education. The schools in the middle of a depressing area and it's one of the weakest Ivy's. Fine school and still ivy, but it's not like ND vs Princeton or something.
Go to ND, pre order your class ring and go work in Chicago IB. If you're not religious, go to Cornell. Easy decision.
ND is a semitarget that places like a target. 'waekest' ivy still beats out too many places.
Shit advice like you still exist! You should sweat a bit.
As usual, awkward as fuck advice. You have zero clue about the ND network. I have been on campus numerous times and worked with about a dozen domers over the years. These guys absolutely pull for graduates. It's almost a cult. I honestly don't think you fine alumni that pull for their own like this outside the military academies.
But go back to offering shit advice. Loser.
I honestly cant understand half the shit you say. Can you structure a coherent sentence/post? If you are foreign its okay but for the love of god stop shitposting.
Anyways to OP I would personally choose ND since the combination of academics/sports-social life/internship all sound better than Cornell
Cornell places very well across the board at EBs/BBs and almost all of them recruit on-campus every single year. Alum network is massive and diverse (not to say that ND's isn't as well), plus I would argue the Ivy name does outshine ND by at least a marginal amount. If your concern is being in the hotel school v. AEM I can assure you that there is nothing impeding you from getting an IBD role from the hotel school. All recruitment is open to anyone regardless of major and the hotel school places just as well as AEM for kids who are interested. The new College of Business is making this distinction between schools even less. If you have any other questions, shoot me a PM
I'm not an expert on either school but it kind of seems like 6 vs 1/2 dozen type of problem to me.
Cornell is an "Ivy" but it's the weakest Ivy, big school, which means competitive(and you have all the kids who didn't get into the other Ivy's that go here), and in a location where it's pretty cold and there isn't a ton to do. With that being said, it's still a great school and if you do well there will be opportunities. The size also allows for a ton of different opportunities on campus.
ND is not an IVY but has a pretty strong brand name and as people above have said, there's a lot of school loyalty which helps out with recruiting. It's also in a non-metropolitan area but the sports culture is strong and it will probably be a more fun school overall.
If the choice was between ND and Dartmouth or ND or Colombia or something like that, then I'd probably lean away from ND. Cornell and ND are close enough that you should just pick whatever school you like the most.
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