Undergrad: University of Texas McCombs Business Honors vs UVA McIntire
I have decided, after quite a few posts on College Confidential, to post my query here on Wall Street Oasis which seems to have a base of older, more experienced users that can perhaps provide me with a different perspective!
I have been accepted to USC-Marshall, UT Business Honors, UVA, UNC-Chapel Hill, Vanderbilt, and Rice. I was also waitlisted at Duke. I have pretty much narrowed it down to UVA and UT Business Honors, choosing not to chase the undergrad econ route I'd have to take at Rice, Vandy, and Duke or the business schools at USC or UNC that I feel aren't as good of a fit for me as UVA McIntire or UT Business Honors.
This being said, I'd describe myself as a Prospective Business/Finance major with an interest in possibly exploring Economics as well (more likely as a minor).
I have visited UT many times and will be visiting UVA for the first time for a "day on the lawn" session soon. I'm going back and forth between these schools and all they have to offer me. Both UVA and UT seem to have great social scenes with highly regarded business schools that offer fantastic opportunities to study abroad and intern. At UT I'm already in the business school where as with McIntire I'd have to apply, like everyone, during my second year. The UT BHP perhaps offers more individual attention(~110 students per year vs ~300 at McIntire) but UVA is a much smaller university with a more impressive student body as a whole(Due to holistic admissions vs top 9% rule).
I'm basically just asking for any advice or insight people might have into both of these schools and the advantages/disadvantages of both. At this point I desire to work in NYC upon graduation and even though BHP does place many students there, I assume McIntire has an advantage?
Also, since WSO seems to be a hot-spot forum for MBA admissions, how do these schools compare in admissions for top-tier MBA programs? (assuming a similar gpa and resume is accomplished at both)
UVA is tits if you want to work on the easy coast. Texas if you want Energy or to work in Texas. What is the cost situation? Do you like seersucker and brooks brothers? How large is your bow tie collection? Need more info.
With BHP you can easily get to new york (or obviously houston) for banking, consulting, etc. The list of firms who participate in OCI at UT is pretty salty.
Obviously UVA is outstanding and a better brand overall (though there are so damn many longhorns everywhere that is a good network).
I'd make the decision 1st on how you feel about the schools when you visit...not bullshit rankings etc. Secondly on where you think you want to live post-grad. While you can get anywhere from anywhere, it is more likely that you will go to a region where your undergrad garners the most attention (Tx for UT...ny/southeast for UVA...though you could definitely get to TX from uva as well, plenty of wahoos).
UT BHP only because the hoes at UT are HOT AS FUCK
^ And the UVA ones aren't?
no
Mistaken.
UVA has an overall better reputation and places more people onto Wall St, but you can easily get there from UT as well. Where are you from? Texas can be tough if you aren't from there, and you might be treated as an outsider.
That said, while UVA is fun and Charlottesville is sick, Austin is even better. Good climate, hot girls, big time athletics...not a lot of social downside.
In summary, you can get to Wall St if you are successful at either school. It will mostly come down to your preference for Texas versus VA as cultures and places to live. I didn't attend either school, but have a long family legacy at UVA and have spent plenty of time in Austin (see tech in my username). Both are incredible options...I'd personally choose UT.
Honors McCombs > McIntire. This may be different if he was talking about regular McCombs but the honors program is top notch
I don't think employers give much credibility to honors programs vs non-honors. As long as your GPA is high, most interviewers will have no idea what the difference is between the two programs, unless the interviewer is a grad of the school. Maybe I'm missing something here...
The business honors program at UT is very well-known. they get access to most BB recruiting while non-honors generally do not. It's like a whole different school kinda sorta
It depends on WHERE you want to work after college.
West Coast = USC Texas(/Energy) = UTexas East Coast = UVA
The above is merely an objective view. If you have an ultra-strong preference for a certain University, then opt for that. People from USC/UT can make it to NYC - you just have to put in a lot more effort to get there.
FWIW, if I were you, I'd pick UVA.
Fortunately, the cost situation is not a huge factor so I can choose between the two on the basis of academic and social factors. I am indeed the type of social, outgoing guy who will likely join a fraternity where ever I go. I know a few students who will be/are attending UVA and quite a few at UT as I live in Texas and have siblings who have attended UT.
Even though I live in Texas, I'm originally from the South and far from a die-hard Texan or somebody with many connections or roots here. I see myself working somewhere in the Northeast for 2-5 years before pursuing a graduate degree, most likely an MBA, from an institution in the NE/ East Coast. Ultimately, I don't see myself ending back up in Texas but don't want to live in NYC as I get older either. Many of you guys have mentioned the geographical pull or strengths of many schools on grads so I have to ask if the undergraduate or graduate school plays a bigger role with such networking, specialties, etc ?
I have talked to 3 graduates of the UT Business Honors Program who have pursued MBAs. One attended Wharton, the others Harvard and Stanford. The man who attended Stanford even said out of 12 Longhorns in his MBA class, 9 were Business Honors graduates. Though this is a small sample, this kind of shows me that if I excel in the UT BHP there are few limits. I'm providing this information because I have not had the opportunity to talk to any McIntire graduates who have pursued MBAs, so how does McIntire typically fare? I'm sure they place students at all of the top schools, but is the competition harder since there are more McIntire Grads than there are UT BHP grads?
Thanks!
People who aren't from Texas have no idea just how good McCombs honors is, go to the honors program dude. No matter if you want to work in northeast, west, southeast or wherever. I have multiple friends that attended that program and a couple of placements were tech IB in San Fran, energy trading/oil IB in Houston, and multiple placements in NYC (ER, IBD, S&T). Keep in mind the firms we are talking about are all top BBs (JPM, MS, GS). If you somehow decide you want to go consulting, MBB recruits at the honors program.
Go to UVA and don't look back. It's a more prestigious school and offers better opportunities than UT.
I saw that someone mentioned the hot women at UT, every school has loads of hot chicks especially UVA. If you want to go to schools just for women and sports and climate go to an SEC school like Alabama or Florida. If you want to go to a school that everyone will be impressed with go to UVA.
We can argue about prestige (though I would say UT undergrad, which i did not attend, is up there with anyone from a job opportunity perspective from major firms, banks, and consultancies due to the size of the student body and bang for your buck recruiters get)
BUT...your statement above patently absurd. The entirety of the Big 10 is full of goblins, as is anything above the Mason-Dixon, and schools with very high academic standards. UVA's hottest broad would be fortunate to be at the top quartile of a Texas (rice excluded, see previous qualification) or SEC school .
UVA is actually in the ACC not the big 10. but i agree with you 100%
I am aware I was just referencing the "every school" comment.
UVA is below the Mason Dixon so I guess it's good. J/J
I'm not saying that UT doesn't have hot women, but so does UVA. I didn't go to either school, but have visited both campuses multiple times and been very impressed with the talent at both schools.
Maybe it's because I live in the south, but I definitely am more impressed when someone tells me they graduated from UVA over UT. UT grads seem to be a dime a dozen to me, just my personal opinion.
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