Very consistent, boring returns. Very few zeroes, but very few 3x+ times deals as well. Good at not losing money.

big question there right now is the senior leadership turnover. Civantos was the guy, but he left a year or two and is running MSD now. Add a couple other departures to that and you’re left with a tough fundraise and a lot of go forward questions.
 

Middle market guys, maybe a bit lower with the new fund size

 

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