Wharton Undergrad, need an MBA?
Typically when I look at the different areas of finance, the career progression usually involves an MBA from a top business school to move up the ranks. For example, for IB, I usually see something like IB -->PE-->MBA-->PE-->Greatness on these forums.
If you go to Wharton undergrad, it's almost like getting an MBA. The classes overlap tremendously, except MBA's take more management courses than u-grads. Do you still need an MBA in the future for most finance managerial positions, if you go to Wharton ugrad?
Are you kidding? Notre Dame has the best business program. They are the ones who do not need an MBA. Wharton is only fourth, not even a bronze medal. http://images.businessweek.com/slideshows/20110227/best-undergraduate-b…
[quote=hot1590]Are you kidding? Notre Dame has the best business program. They are the ones who do not need an MBA. Wharton is only fourth, not even a bronze medal. http://images.businessweek.com/slideshows/20110227/best-undergraduate-b…]
First of all this is a troll. Everybody look and laugh. Okay.
Second of all, it all depends what you want to get into. And it depends on the company. A lot of larger companies will require an MBA as you move up the ranks, no matter where you went as an undergrad. However there might be some smaller & less known private firms & hedgefunds who could really give a shit if you get your MBA as long as you are ontop of things.
You can't compare an MBA to an undergrad degree. It's like comparing the NFL to the Women's Powder Puff League. Or even worse-- the NBA to the WNBA. Plus the networking opportunities within your MBA school are almost worth the price of enrolment.
Wrong. I'd say Wharton undergrad is worth more than at least all the non-top10 MBA schools. You're not talking about an undergrad from Penn State, this is Wharton you are comparing with and no, your MBA from UT Austin or other shitty schools won't be able to lay a finger on any Wharton grad, even those in UG.
I'm sorry, have you attended grad school or are you just going by ranks in the NYTimes and other such publications?
You can't compare UG to Grad schools.. plain and simple. It's the reason why those who wento Wharton still get an MBA.. just like those who goto non-top 10 schools.
^^^I hope that is satirical
Not here to argue who has the better program, etc.
also do you need to do some research and understand why people get a MBA. Because by your post you don't understand the purpose of an mba.
Please educate us on the "purpose" of an mba thx
Purpose of an MBA isn't about the education its about the networking and contacts you make within the MBA program. Like its been said before on this forum what you learn in an MBA program can be learned with books found on Amazon... Not exactly sure what you were looking for but alright.
Agreed - a large part of the reason that people go back for a top MBA is for the contacts/networking opportunities that it brings
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There is sooo much misinformation/trolling/stupidy on WSO. I'm starting to see it clearer now...
I personally don't think anybody needs a MBA, unless you are switching career tracks (eg finance to marketing). You will learn more about finance working in finance than in a MBA classroom, regardless of whether you went to Wharton ugrad or not.
There are firms that will require you to get a MBA to advance, and those firms are not likely to care where you went to undergrad. They know you will not emerge from a MBA with some glorious new modelling aptitude, but it is just something required to fit in with management at the firm.
MBAs also provide "fuzzy" skills of less quantifiable value, like general management and interpersonal skills. Some companies justify requiring them that way. From having managers with MBAs and without MBAs, I can say that I do not perceive any difference in management ability between the two groups. Effective leadership seems almost an innate trait or to be learned on the job.
wharton kids do not get MBAs usually. and to the final point that is made in these posts, wharton guys may get an MBA not for the education but for the networking.
alright you guys keep trolling because I love it. I mean I never seen a wharton kid at Piper Jaffray Technology Partners.
Chubbybunny is a current Stern student.
Get the fuck out of here. You troll way too hard. As if Columbia will help you place better than Stern. With your attitude, good luck anywhere. By your logic also, you still fail for not being at Wharton.
Jealous? How's it feel to be a school that prides itself in being a Wharton/Columbia reject school? Columbia is ivy league, NYU is a safety school - don't forget that. And the only characteristic that's separating you with your shitty school from dog shit is that you're a black minority. Oh wait, dog shit is black too, I guess you're both more similar than I thought LOL.
Wow. Just wow.
Patrick, can we please get rid of this fucker?
not really sure whats funny about this.
Permanent IP ban please
chubbybunny banned. sorry that took so long.
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Well, he's right about this one.
Wharton undergrad means there should be no reason you need to go get an MBA unless you need to expand your network
^yikes.
Back to the topic at hand though... I'd postulate that Wharton kids could still benefit from an MBA, but that they're more prepared than anyone else to go forward in finance/pe/ib jobs without one. Not because of the education you receive, but because of the network you have from your undergrad. So many wharton kids go into IBD/PE that even as some filter out over time and switch to easier jobs / get married, etc, if you had a strong network from UG that will likely continue into the future in a huge way. Plus, you'll also have common ground with people who did their MBA at Wharton, etc...
On the other hand... why wouldn't you want to do an MBA? No graduate degrees? Seems rather plebian to me.
If the only benefit of getting an MBA is the added network, why would you need to spend $150k and 2 years of your life/foregone salary if you're happy with your job making $200k? Would that make you a plebe?
^I was half kidding... while I've always wanted 1 or 2 graduate degrees I realize that in some situations there's no reason to get a grad degree... that makes sense to me.
Damn, this is so simple. A wharton kid may need an MBA if he wants to switch career tracks.
Woah, hadn't checked this thread in awhile. Jeezus, the pent-up fury. Good luck at Columbia or wherever, troll. Don't get scared living in your gentrified neighborhood carved out a community built by upstanding "dog shit" people.
I am a current Wharton Ugrad, and from speaking to people in finance, they've told me to get my MBA, but I feel like it should be at a school other than wharton. I've been looking at Columbia recently and am impressed. HBS would be ideal, but that's tough.
Do you all agree? I know some wharton mba's who were wharton ugrads. I feel like coming back to wharton adds nothing and is boring since you've taken all of the classes in undergrad. I'd rather try some new things at harvard or columbia.
If I did my undergrad at Wharton, I would definitely like to pursue other options. Obviously a Wharton undergrad won't have the same ability to network with a Wharton MBA as another Wharton MBA would, but I would pursue another school for the sake of a fresh environment. That's me personally. Plus, you can open yourself up to new networks (Harvard, Columbia, Stanford, wherever you may go..)
FWIW, Columbia releases transfer decisions in mid-May. BUSTED.
talking to a banned user? FAILED
Failed to recognize all-caps FWIW tag? BLIND
For the record, I think Notre Dame has a great business program. One of the values that the Jesuits teach that creates well-run companies is servant leadership. That's not something you find in the Northeast and gives them a huge comparative advantage, hence their high business rankings.
That said, MBAs never hurt. Though it's harder to make the case to an admissions committee that an MBA is going to help you if your undergrad is in finance or business.
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