What Next ? Career in RE

I have a MSC and 2 Bsc in Finance & Real Estate. I interned with a boutique RE Development Firm in NYC then worked within Big4 with their RE Team in Middle East then moved to REIT with their IR department, now I’m stuck what to do as I notice the exit opportunities are limited ! I notice as an investor Relations Analyst I somehow burnt all cards as there is no promotion within IR Department !? I thought this was a great short cut to client facing positions and it will add value ( I made 120k Basic Salary ) What do you suggest to consider as I’ve been applying all over and no response !

 

Exactly.

OP - I had the chance to join Goldman's GSAM team doing Investor Relations for one of their funds. Turned it down because there was 0 financial or investment emphasis and the head of the department basically said you will not be able to lateral to the principal investing team.

I sympathize with you, but you should have done more research on what you were getting yourself into.

 
TheDiplomats:

Should not have joined Investor Relations if you knew you did not want a career in Investor Relations... I'd recommend going back to Big 4 and transitioning to REPE from there. It is an underrated path that not many know about.

no I loved IR but the issue it gets stagnant like you can’t qualify for another title and the money won’t be increasing either ! ( let’s say like IB from analyst to associate to MD etc ) so I just feel if this was a big mistake also in my firm it’s called front office but I know many other companies including financial institutions they call it middle office or even back office and usually it’s not highly respected ! I applied recently for an IR position with KKR but I didn’t make it to the shortlist to an interview ! ( I don’t have much experience anyway & the recruiter told me it’s very competitive) Also I’m moving to Canada by 2021 ; this won’t be as big as US market or as niche as Middle East so I’m not sure what to target at this point !
 

From IR you could work in a smaller firm with a mixed Capital Markets/IR type role. Raising funds is a skill and critical task, so if you have experience in that realm it should let you add value to a lot of ventures.

I don't think you are 'trapped' but you need to think more creatively and network aggressively. IR may not be like acq/am, but it has value to the overall operations of an investor/developer.

 
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I might be going against the grain here, but speaking from my own experience, I think the amount of emphasis members of WSO put on elite schools and job is overestimated (especially in real estate) as I didnt go to an elite university nor did I land a prestigious job out of undergrad. As a result, I think to say that 1 "misstep" into IR will derail your career is not true. Maybe it set you back by 1 or 2 years, but shouldn't be anything major in the long-run as long as you stay determined and work hard (unless you're trying to go to Blackstone or something, but your fate was sealed well before your IR job). On paper, you're clearly quite competent ie NYU MSRE, RE Dev internship, and then Big 4 RE Team, before going into IR at a REIT and I'm sure you picked up a few skills in IR (don't forget that as you move up the ladder, dealing with clients/investors because much more important than running models), that being said, I assume the roles you want to pursue (REIB/REPE/Dev) will require a strong financial modeling skill set. Since you graduated from NYU, had internship experience, and worked at Big 4, you must have some competency here. If you can't build a model from scratch, I would suggest you practice until you can or invest in a course from WSO or M&I and self-study (In my experience any buyside shop worth working for will put you through a test). On paper, your resume seems strong enough to get a first round. If you are not getting interviews, it could be how you're applying that is the issue. Are you just applying through job sites like Linkedin or Indeed? If so, you're doing it wrong. You should be finding people at the firm/team you want to work for and cold emailing them. I've interviewed with many well-respected shops, all of which were achieved by cold emailing analysts/associates on the team. Also, don't forget that we are in a recession. Many firms are reluctant to make new hires. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss further.

 
Fredfredburger:

I might be going against the grain here, but speaking from my own experience, I think the amount of emphasis members of WSO put on elite schools and job is overestimated (especially in real estate) as I didnt go to an elite university nor did I land a prestigious job out of undergrad. As a result, I think to say that 1 "misstep" into IR will derail your career is not true. Maybe it set you back by 1 or 2 years, but shouldn't be anything major in the long-run as long as you stay determined and work hard (unless you're trying to go to Blackstone or something, but your fate was sealed well before your IR job). On paper, you're clearly quite competent ie NYU MSRE, RE Dev internship, and then Big 4 RE Team, before going into IR at a REIT and I'm sure you picked up a few skills in IR (don't forget that as you move up the ladder, dealing with clients/investors because much more important than running models), that being said, I assume the roles you want to pursue (REIB/REPE/Dev) will require a strong financial modeling skill set. Since you graduated from NYU, had internship experience, and worked at Big 4, you must have some competency here. If you can't build a model from scratch, I would suggest you practice until you can or invest in a course from WSO or M&I and self-study (In my experience any buyside shop worth working for will put you through a test). On paper, your resume seems strong enough to get a first round. If you are not getting interviews, it could be how you're applying that is the issue. Are you just applying through job sites like Linkedin or Indeed? If so, you're doing it wrong. You should be finding people at the firm/team you want to work for and cold emailing them. I've interviewed with many well-respected shops, all of which were achieved by cold emailing analysts/associates on the team. Also, don't forget that we are in a recession. Many firms are reluctant to make new hires. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss further.

thank you, yes but my issue I’m not good with excel modeling internships teaches nothing but do database on an excel sheet , EY was just valuation & preparing presentation...I’m not very strong on technical side and this makes it even more complicated for me...I always apply online through LinkedIn even though I try to reach out random people but all internship Ey & reit was through online websites, so I did work alone besides I feel stuck because moving from Middle East makes you less competitive! I feel like I can no longer complete with major hubs while they did appreciate my NYC experience the table is turning around now ! I can’t move on
 

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