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Mar 5, 2018

One of my high school friends quit after 1 year of hardcore IBD work. Little sleep, two apartments, and no social lifestyle due to the demands. This was Citi Group. The industry itself isn't for the faint hearted(?), but the rewards are well worth it.

You got this.

No pain no game.

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Mar 6, 2018

Two apartments? Explain

Mar 7, 2018

She initially lived in another part of town because her friends lived within the area. However, the demands of the work (can't commute so late into the night) she got a separate apartment literally across/down the street (or so I am told).

No pain no game.

Mar 6, 2018

which group?

Mar 7, 2018

I never asked her about the group she was with. We do not get into work specifics between friends, and at the time I was busy trying to be on her good side. I know she works for a Private Wealth Management Firm last time I heard from mutual friends about her.

No pain no game.

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Mar 6, 2018

Why did he have two apartments?

Mar 9, 2018

Details my friend. See above comments.

Mar 10, 2018

Averaged 2-3 hours of sleep the week leading up to 4 finals (2 Accounting & 1 Economics) spread across two days (I was pledging a fraternity at this time). Thought at the time that generic adderall wasn't as effective as brand name and ended up popping like 5-6 within a 12 hour period (some 20mg, some 70mg). I was triggered to say the least. Ended up in the fetal position with the room spinning at 100mph about to accept death until my best friend came in & made me smoke a bunch of cigs. Didn't get a 4.0 that semester.

Don't break yourself on the way to making yourself

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Mar 19, 2018

No difference between generic and name brand. Active ingredient is the same

Mar 6, 2018

Not in IB yet, but there was a three month stretch where I worked from 3:30am until about 8:30 PM in an engine room on a boat. That sucked. Had two days off every two weeks... sometimes.

It wasn't as intellectually intense as IB is made out to be, but it was absolutely exhausting trying to learn every inch of a boat from bow to stern with no mechanical experience whatsoever.

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Mar 7, 2018

IB intellectually intense...ha

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Mar 9, 2018

respect

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Mar 10, 2018

Holy shit, I have the same story. Sounds like you also had double 4-8s watch in the engine room. I did double 4-8s for my first 18 months aboard and prayed we didn't have any ops at night or it'd be another no sleep night for me, had a lot of those.

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Mar 11, 2018

Ugh-- I do not envy you at all. Luckily, we had a fat enough watch rotation that once you were qualified you never stood 4-Greats. Getting qualified as an 18 year old who has never been in an engine room was not fun.

Glad I'll never have to do that again! Hope things on your send have settled down, too.

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Mar 6, 2018

Lived normally for 3 days by pulling all-nighters playing video games. I was hallucinating half the time and was able to see all kinds of ghosts.

Mar 6, 2018

Hell week during fraternity pledgeship

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Mar 7, 2018

fell asleep at starbucks waiting for coffee. they weren't busy...

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Mar 7, 2018

well... it actually wasn't coffee it was my boss's latte

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Mar 8, 2018

Will definitely vouch for Hell Week like that other guy said.

So my sophomore year of college when I discovered adderall, I stayed up for about 3 days doing studying/catch up work. By the end of it I had full on hallucinations (ex I was in my room in the fraternity house and spaced out and legitimately thought I was in the school library).

I was a microbio major at the time on the premed track.

Mar 9, 2018

Every day of my life since graduating college I have been more tired than the day before. It's like I wake up and, on any given day you see me, that's the most tired I've ever been in my life.

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Mar 9, 2018

For the students on the forum: this is what the beginning of burnout feels like.

Mar 9, 2018

Have you seen my stapler?

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Mar 9, 2018

Once stayed up for a consecutive 48 hours (which was itself preceded by a 20 hour day and 4 hours sleep), working the entire way thorough on a very taxing project with lots of details to manage.

Senior manager got word of my struggles and ordered me to leave. Of course it was the night of the firm holiday party. Of course we had booked Tao. Of course I went.

Left the party and on my way past the afterparty thought to myself "No. Be responsible and go sleep. Heck, be frugal and ride the subway."

The last thing I remember is getting on the downtown-bound A train at 14th street around midnight.

The next thing I know I wake up at the uptown end of the A train line, suited, and wearing a santa hat. "You better go stand by the booth unless you want to get robbed", the guy sweeping the platform says. It's around 4AM.

I do so. I get the next train bound downtown.

Wake up again and I am a few stops south of my departure point, but it's several hours later. Yes, I've ridden the train all the way down to 14th, where it was turned back around due to track work, ridden all the way back to the top of the line, and begun my descent again. I'm sitting in an empty car, and my Santa hat is now gone.

Force myself to stay awake. Get off at 14th where they stop the train and switch platforms. As I pull out of the station, I see a guy in the empty car next to the one I was just in...wearing a Santa hat.

Get home at 7 AM.

Work at 9:30

fml

Mar 10, 2018

Dude why not Uber from Van Cortdland Park-242nd St (or whatever the end of the line is, idk the A train) after the first round of shenanigans?

Mar 12, 2018

Of all times to try to save a couple bucks, that was not it

Mar 12, 2018

This x100. At least 3 times I have taken the tube rather than get an Uber after a big night, ended up falling asleep and waking up on the platform at the end of the line about 20 miles out of London at like 4am when there's nothing running and wondering how I'm going to get home. ALWAYS. GET. A. CAB.

It's certainly not uncommon to end up leaving a friends house after some drinks at about 5am on a work night, going to sleep at 5:30, waking up at 6:30 and back to work. Those are the days I try the old "nap in a toilet cubicle" tricks - never works.

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Mar 9, 2018

This was a while back, but during my summer internship for a MM shop I was finishing up ~40 hours straight. I felt like death, and caffeine has ceased to take effect. I had to deliver books for three different bake-offs to an MD before I could head home and get a few hours of sleep. No car service -- or if there was one, I was too anxious as an intern to take it.

So off I go. It's 2am, and the roads are basically clear. I drop the books off without incident. I start heading home when a splitting pain in my stomach reminds me that I haven't eaten in almost 12 hours.

And there, like an oasis, is a late night taco drive-through. I place my order, salivating at the thought of carnitas and barbacoa tacos. I drive around to the first window and pay. The cashier gives me my change. I thank her, and then I drive off -- excited to get home and eat the tacos that I had just abandoned at the second window. It wasn't until I got through my front door that I realized the mistake. I never once considered driving back to get them. The siren song of my bed was much too enticing. I passed out almost instantly.

Many years later, I can simply reiterate the obvious. This job is incredibly demanding for a whole host of reasons. Good luck getting to that unconscious state, and make the most of it when you can.

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Mar 9, 2018

When my baby was newly born.

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Mar 9, 2018

My story isn't quite as bad or dramatic as @Fugues above, but one time I was so tired, I fell asleep on the 5 train. I woke up to the conductor yelling 'Grand Central!" Hell i thought, I overslept by a station (supposed to get out at Union Station). When I got out of the train, I realized that the train I was on was going south, but when I got on it was going north. Turns out, I was on the fucking train while it went all the way to the last stop, in the Bronx, and then all the way down again before I woke up. The rub was i could have just stayed on that train and gotten home 15 min sooner. But then again, 15 minutes is better than to end end up wherever the 5 train goes when it goes south. Furthermore, I was very relieved to find all my possessions were still on me and more importantly, I hadn't been stabbed. And now, here is a toast to not being stabbed!! Doesn't it feel great?

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Mar 15, 2018
the_gekko:

My story isn't quite as bad or dramatic as @Fugues above, but one time I was so tired, I fell asleep on the 5 train. I woke up to the conductor yelling 'Grand Central!" Hell i thought, I overslept by a station (supposed to get out at Union Station). When I got out of the train, I realized that the train I was on was going south, but when I got on it was going north. Turns out, I was on the fucking train while it went all the way to the last stop, in the Bronx, and then all the way down again before I woke up. The rub was i could have just stayed on that train and gotten home 15 min sooner. But then again, 15 minutes is better than to end end up wherever the 5 train goes when it goes south. Furthermore, I was very relieved to find all my possessions were still on me and more importantly, I hadn't been stabbed. And now, here is a toast to not being stabbed!! Doesn't it feel great?

haha yeah I fell asleep in a suit dead tired on an upbound express on the green line - I was supposed to get off at 59th, but woke up at 125th.

A cop woke me up. He shook me and said "someone's going to take a razor blade and slit your pants and steal your phone and valuables"

I looked at my pants and at first thought wtf is this guy talking about. Then I saw my phone was there and felt my wallet. And was stoked I didn't lose anything. He was like "you better go."

So I left and then got off the subway and realized I was at 125th street and was like wtfff. Hailed the first cab back to 65th street where I lived at the time and I passed out in the cab the whole time.

Cabbie yelled "you're here!" - which are two of the best words in the English language at times. I swiped my card and passed out in Heaven aka my bed.

One of those nights where I was like f-this suit, stripped down and collapsed.

But, that definitely wasn't on my top 3 list. I was sleepy, but felt great the next day.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Mar 9, 2018

Once you hit a certain point you start to hallucinate a bit. Not recommending it, but not not recommending it either.

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Mar 10, 2018

So tired I waited for a stop sign to turn green.

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Mar 10, 2018

Had a stretch of 9-10 straight days of 4am or later with a few 7+am nights sprinkled in there. I've found long consistent periods of <3-4 hours of sleep to be much worse then any single all nighter. Wont forget how badly I wanted to just walk out and quit on those last few days

Mar 10, 2018

I used to work startups in powerplants as a startup manager for the electrical and controls portion of our design. Was on a fast-track job in NC where I'd worked 26 sixteen-hour days consecutively.

Day 27 I was standing in front of a group of engineers, assigning tasks on our design board for the day and fell asleep, standing up, in front of 8 fellow engineers. Went back to the hotel, flopped on the bed in my steel-toed boots, jeans, shirt and jacket and slept for 16 straight.

Doing that kind of garbage is what required me to leave the profession for nearly 6 years. That kind of work is hard on a person's body and mind. It pays relatively well, but the toll it takes can be hard to justify as a profession. At least for me.

Mar 10, 2018

a) During sleep deprivation in the CCT pipeline and at ATC school in MS

b) Senior year at military school taking 23hrs first semester in three languages with two majors and a minor and on honor court (still got a 4.0)

c) Getting stuck in an insomnia state for days in summer 2015. I took a total of 800mg of diphenhydramine one night with no effect to try to sleep.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Mar 13, 2018

You forgot to add taking mirror selfies till 4am.

Mar 11, 2018

Hell week in the military. It sucks when you're up for 48 hours straight, walked countless number of miles, are soaked in your own sweat and you can legit feel grime all over you. Go back to camp, change into a fresh set of clothes, getting ready to finally tuck in and the sirens go off + an angry platoon sergeant comes in and yells asking everyone to be in full battle gear in 15 mins for another night of endless marching.

Salary for doing all of this ->USD $400/month

Seriously IB sounds great in comparison to this.

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Mar 14, 2018
anon_wc:

Hell week in the military. It sucks when you're up for 48 hours straight, walked countless number of miles, are soaked in your own sweat and you can legit feel grime all over you. Go back to camp, change into a fresh set of clothes, getting ready to finally tuck in and the sirens go off + an angry platoon sergeant comes in and yells asking everyone to be in full battle gear in 15 mins for another night of endless marching.

Salary for doing all of this ->USD $400/month

Seriously IB sounds great in comparison to this.

What?

The rank "platoon sergeant" does not exist in BUDs Hell Week.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Mar 14, 2018

To clarify I wasn't in the navy SEALs, special forces or even the American military for that matter.

I know what they have to go through, and my training was definitely easier. Of course, I was eighteen and was not ready for it -> mentally or physically.

Out of curiosity, are you ex-military?

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Mar 11, 2018

A sign that i'm out of gas is falling asleep standing up on the train. I've fallen asleep standing up in the elevator before as well. Night classes after work will have you thinking about ending it all

Mar 12, 2018

3 days straight during an intense period outside Kirkuk. Mission, guard and qrf - where without fail we would get called out within 20 minutes because someone was blown up or ambushed.. Barley ate anything and took in one IED during that period. Try rip its and Copenhagen with a side of hate. If you have the liberty of listening to music at your desk try the "Despise the sun" EP by Suffocation.

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Mar 14, 2018

Dude, Despise the Sun is fucking killer. The best thing Suffo released outside of Effigy of the Forgotten and Pierced from Within. Good taste!

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Mar 19, 2018

When MW2 came out for the first time. Played it from when I got home that day till I had to work the next day. Did not sleep for 2 days. Prestiged though so it was worth it imo.

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Mar 13, 2018

I drove ~1,500 miles straight, with only 3 stops for gas in which I filled up and immediately hit the road again. The difficulty of driving increases exponentially after hour 12 or so. I have a ton of respect for truck drivers who are able to do that regularly.

Mar 15, 2018

They're not allowed to by law. Not saying they don't though, and I hear meth is popular with a lot of them.

Mar 15, 2018
urmaaam:

They're not allowed to by law. Not saying they don't though, and I hear meth is popular with a lot of them.

Yeah they have this one drink called "Breakfast"

You start with Cocaine, mix with Ketamine and Ativan, drop in a Molly for good measure, 4 teaspoons of honey, a drop of apple cider vinegar, a lot of meth, more cocaine, and a raw egg. Blend, then do 5 lines of cocaine. Drink 1/2 of the 'breakfast' mix, do a speedball, then eat 2 weed brownies, drink the rest, and cap it off with one thick dotted line of cocaine to remember what the center line of a road looks like, and you've had breakfast.

Some prefer to have breakfast with bacon, but it's up to you. Turkey bacon is a healthier option for truck drivers watching their weight.

So next time you're at a truck stop, and a driver says 'did you have breakfast?' and the other nods, you know what he really means.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Mar 14, 2018

Working in Big 4 audit full time while completing my degree. Work was usually 80 hours a week during busy season, at the clients' premises which were usually well out of the city I was living in at the time (1.5-2 hour commute both ways). When I got home dead tired, I had time to have a quick dinner, knock out a few assignments for school, change into a fresh suit, chug a tall glass of coffee, and head back out to get to the client's office on time.

By the end of my first year doing this, I was practically a zombie with total immunity to caffeine, but I did get to graduate debt-free this way, and the lessons about work ethic that I learned served me well in future roles.

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Mar 15, 2018

you should have asked to get a client closer to where you live.

I use to work Big 4, and they wanted me to commute 2 hours one way starting on my first day. Did it for about a month then switched to a better, closer client.

Mar 19, 2018

The office I was working in wasn't very flexible. I got staffed on a team that specialized in government-owned companies and utilities and all clients within that portfolio had their offices in shitty locations. I asked to change teams, was denied, and I quit a few months thereafter when I had another job locked down.

Mar 14, 2018

Back in high school after getting a concussion, there was a two week period during which I'd fall asleep literally anywhere if I was just sitting around. This included a noisy gym and a middle school band concert (these can probably wake the dead). Was scary af.

I've also fallen asleep on the train and missed my stop after a late night but fortunately never made it further than 2-3 stops before waking up.

Mar 15, 2018

My hours aren't as bad as any of you vets. That said, sometimes when I go to work, I will drive down. This is rare, as I typically rely upon the train. One day, during a particularly brutal week, I drove down early and parked in my typical garage. When I got off work around 3 AM, I was on auto pilot. I proceeded to take the train home, and then was astonished by the fact that my car was not parked in its typical spot. I then took the train back downtown to retrieve my car. It was about as bad as it sounds.

Mar 15, 2018

...Why wouldn't you just take the train back down to work the next day, and then drive home...?

Mar 15, 2018
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Mar 27, 2018