Which undergrad public safety is best to attend: IU, Penn State, UFlorida, or Fordham?

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I am a rising senior in high school and I am aiming for the Ivy League and other top schools, but I have heard that people have success in IB from less selective schools. The costs for the colleges I am thinking about are Penn State (25-30k), IU ($38k), UFlorida (Full-Ride), and Fordham (Free-tuition/ $20k). I have heard Penn State is a target school for IB especially from the NLF, but there are so many students so is it uber-competitive there? Fordham is close to NY but doesn't have a great program and UFlorida is kinda semi-target so would it be even harder for me to get a position from there. IU I know has a great program, but how does it compare with Penn State? Thanks in advance for any help I could get!

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Jun 28, 2019

IU is great if you can get into the Investment Banking Workshop. Everyone coming out of it has great success getting offers. That being said, it's hard to get into, so you would need to have a good GPA and extracurriculars/leadership positions during your freshman year.

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Jun 28, 2019

"uber-competitive" lol

There's a thread here I think titled "IU Kelley Prestige", you should check that out. Goes in depth with how that IB workshop places lights out.

Penn State also places lights out if you get into the NLF but to a few BB's (BAML & Citi) and a few others it places but definitely less so (GS,MS,etc.).

In regards to the competitiveness, yes PSU makes there NLF competitive but for good reasons. PSIA may host 100+ students in their bi-weekly meetings but only allow 20-30 seats for incoming analysts. Grill you on technical and behavioral questions but that's so they can mimic a super day environment.

For $8-13k lighter cost of debt, I would say PSU with the NLF but all up to you at the end of the day.

Cheers and best of luck.

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Jun 29, 2019

I'll check out the IU Kelley Prestige thread. People keep saying IU has the most prestige out of any public business school so I have a lot to think about since Kelley is so much more expensive.

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Jun 30, 2019

UVA has more prestige than any other public school, but IU places very well too

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Jun 28, 2019

I go to one of those. Are the numbers in the parenthesis how much it'd cost per year or how much the full 4 years would cost? Assuming it's for the full 4 years, I'd go with IU Kelley first. If you an get into the NLF, go to Penn State, then UF, then Fordham. PM me if you want to know about my specific school.

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Jun 28, 2019

Hi Ladbet. Those numbers are total cost of attendance for one year... so IU would be $50k more than Penn State and $160k more than University of Florida lol. I'm new and not certified so I can't really PM, but if you are at one of these schools is it very competitive to get the positions or similar to the top schools where everyone has a good chance of being recruited?

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Jun 28, 2019

I'll PM you.

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Jun 28, 2019

Fordham has the best reputation of the four and is the cheapest. However, my answer would change if you got into Kelly.

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Jun 28, 2019

First off man, delete your fuckin name...rookie move. IU is the best out of the 4, and you can get into banking without being in the workshop. It's a lot more legwork (networking) by yourself, but you still have the prestige of the school. Last tip - join Greek life if you're not a total squid.

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Jun 28, 2019

SHFU who the hell are you to abuse me.

Jun 29, 2019

Meant to reply to the OP there. Your name's straight and agreed that IU w/o Kelley is a terrible choice.

Jun 29, 2019

I changed my name. Thanks for the info. Also not a big fan of Greek Life but again I am very squid-like lol.

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Jun 28, 2019

IU Kelley, check out the banking workshop's website to see how kids in the program are placing on the street.

Jun 28, 2019

Kids a noob

Jun 29, 2019

Was that about me?

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Jun 28, 2019

UF is a good school, places decently in IB and your tuition is covered, I would probably go to UF if you don't get into the top schools.

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Jun 29, 2019

UF is top school. It does not matter where you go with all of these because they are all non-targets. As long as you have a good GPA, network, and read this website for the next 3 years you are good to go. I would go to UF and take advantage of on campus recruiting.

Go onto LinkedIn and look at how many people are in IB from UF compared to the other schools. Also, look at where they are physically because IB in New York is different than IB in mid tier cities. That will settle the argument.

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Jun 29, 2019

Don't know why I'm getting MS but yeah. I can't imagine paying nearly $160k for IU and $120k for Penn State,

Jun 29, 2019

Do you know much about UF recruiting? If I am not the #1 best interviewer, is it much more difficult to get top jobs. Are the career services there good enough to help me get internships?

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Jun 29, 2019

VP friend of mine went to IU and had solid placement into banking. I've heard there's a undergrad program that places well too. We have a bunch of kids in my analyst class (lower BB) from UF as well. You're definitely going to have an easier time landing in IB from an Ivy, but it's definitely also a function of your own performance. Being a rockstar candidate from IU or UF or even Fordham will make landing one of these gigs easier than if you were a 3.0 bottom tier candidate at an Ivy. That said this is just based on my own experience coming into banking from a non target, as well as some kids I've mentored at Ivy's/target schools w/ low GPA's and a lack of relevant internship experience. If you can land at an Ivy, afford it, and have a decent expectation of performing well, definitely go for it. Beyond undergrad recruiting, having that name on your resume is a signalling mechanism to future employers. You'll be much more of a known quantity within finance and other selective fields given the number of students who go to top fields/firms from ivys/stanford/etc and excel there.

Jun 30, 2019

Makes sense. An Ivy is only meant for people who can put in the work lol.... so I can't slack off. But it would cost $250k+ in total for four years while UF will be $0k lol. IU seems like a really good choice because everyone says they get jobs but it just has to be worth the cost.

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Jun 30, 2019

Thought UF MSF places well and it's a 4 year program now.

Jun 30, 2019

No way it's a 4-year MSF when others are mostly 1 year.

MBAs are 2 years...

Jun 30, 2019

Meant combined undergrad / MSF within 4 years

Jun 30, 2019

Kelley hands down. I've spent my career at two very different banks (moved from MM to BB/EB) and both of them recruit from Kelley. Neither recruited from the others.

Jun 30, 2019

If those are per year costs, Florida for sure. Florida is not a total non-target, and if you do well there you absolutely have a shot at IB

Jun 30, 2019

I know a few kids from Fordham who were pretty happy with their time there. From what they say, the career placement department is kind of shit but is making a push to build it out more by hiring ex industry ppl. The location is NYC def doesn't hurt either. All three good choices overall but I definitely think if you're motivated you can do fine at Fordham, don't know as much about the other two.

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Feb 27, 2020

Given the costs absolutely UF. Not to mention the beautiful weather and fantastic social scene. Have some buddies there and they have some decent IB placement. Kelley is GREAT have a ton of friends there with great placement but is no way worth even half of the 160k cost you'd have to fork over compared with UF.

Feb 27, 2020

If you are gonna do UF your chances are really low unless you're in the MSF program or a minority in SEO.

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Feb 27, 2020

If you come to UF you might realize you don't want IB. There are many cool companies that recruit here with 50hr/week finance positions and solid pay. Often the MM groups of the BBs come and recruit. The salary isn't that bad, and the lifestyle is much better. If you want IB you can get it also.

Feb 27, 2020

Like what type of 50 hr roles? Corp fin?

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Feb 27, 2020
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