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I supported withdrawing from Afghanistan when Trump announced it last year.  I guess everyone is now pretending that never happened to own the libs. 

 

I think a lot of people are angry at how Biden handled the refugee situation in Afghanistan. It seems like there was pretty good intelligence that the ANA and ANP was useless. I've even heard about how useless they were from vets well before 2021. And Biden seemingly ignored it. I mean I don't know if Trump would have done better on the refugee situation, but the Taliban is currently executing Afghan commandos and interpreters.

 

From what I understand the majority of Americans supported leaving Afghanistan, but not leaving Americans and other allies behind or Evacuating the US embassy using helicopters to scoop people off the roof. Confusing what people are upset about is either ignorant or purposely deceptive. 

 

Drumpfy

I supported withdrawing from Afghanistan when Trump announced it last year.  I guess everyone is now pretending that never happened to own the libs. 

No one who supported Trump disagrees with leaving Afghanistan. What we disagree with is this absolute shit show of an eleventh-hour evacuation which is abandoning tens of thousands of men and women (including thousands of Americans) who dedicated the past 20 years to helping stem the tide against the Taliban. The plan Trump had was clear cut and included continual air support for the Afghan military to maintain their military infrastructure. Not only did Biden break the initial agreement to leave months ago, but he withdrew that continued air support and proceeded to waste the additional time he gave himself on worrying about optics instead of putting together an actual plan. He left behind over $80 billion in military equipment which will make the Taliban now the best armed force in the entire region. The way this was handled was pathetic and makes the Saigon incident look like a walk in the park. This is without a doubt the worst military bungle in US history. I'm not happy to see Biden fail, not at this scale. This is horrible for America and will prevent any domestic force for future conflicts from trusting our word. 

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

Nah, he'd be hit with the 25th Amendment before he resigned. Frankly I'd rather have his dumbass in power over Kamala and most voters would agree with me on that. 

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

No. But the midterm's are going to look bloody for Biden. There's just going to be endless clips of taliban fighters marching into Kabul on stolen MRAPs and Humvees that the Republicans are going to plaster all over television in any remotely close race with a message "BIDEN LOST AFGHANISTAN." Regardless of the fact that Trump negotiated the pullout in the first place.

 

It doesn’t really matter that Trump negotiated it. What matters is how badly Biden put it into action. Biden has been aware of this his entire presidency and could have renegotiated or more importantly, put a strategic plan in place to pull out.

Luckily for Biden the Voters have short memories might forget this if he starts doing things better.

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-0 control over southern border

-turned on our ally, Taiwan by rejoining the WHO

-allowed ransom to be paid instead of punishing Russia for oil pipeline hack

-losing our energy independence by closing oil pipelines such as Keystone

-massive inflation due to govt. spending

-small businesses struggling due to shortage of workers

-0 pressure on CCP for COVID lab leak

and now the poorly executed pull-out from Afghanistan. 

And all this in the first 7 months of office. Biden is Carter 2.0. Change my mind. 

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Taiwan is a democracy, and our ally in the area so we should stand by them and honor our friendship as historically we have done with other democratic nations. Not only have we turned out back on a democratic country in the area but we’ve given in to a communist one by joining the WHO. 

What is your second point? Sure, we don’t want to be in a conflict into perpetuity but the point is to get the local military up and running before going not to surrender the country over to the Taliban. The execution was downright awful and an embarrassment to this nation. 

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larry david

Who gives a flying fuck about Taiwan. I certainly don't

Also pulling out of Afghanistan was good, actually

It's only where 90%+ of our advanced semiconductors are manufactured - IE the centerpiece of our technology manufacturing supply chain. Maybe try reading a thing or two about what their position in the world is before saying something stupid. It's not just that they're the original government of China who driven out by the communists, they're a strategically critical region for the 21st century and the Western world in general. And if you try to suggest "wElL wE sHoUlD mOvE tHeIr FaCtOrIeS oVeR hErE" you're just going to embarrass yourself. 

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 
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-0 control over southern border

-turned on our ally, Taiwan by rejoining the WHO

-allowed ransom to be paid instead of punishing Russia for oil pipeline hack

-losing our energy independence by closing oil pipelines such as Keystone

-massive inflation due to govt. spending

-small businesses struggling due to shortage of workers

-0 pressure on CCP for COVID lab leak

and now the poorly executed pull-out from Afghanistan. 

And all this in the first 7 months of office. Biden is Carter 2.0. Change my mind. 

He's so profoundly worse than Carter it's not even funny. If his weakness lets Taiwan fall under our watch as well I'd argue worst President ever hands down. 

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

I'm shocked everyone is so convinced he won't resign.  Never has their been a President who is in such significant cognitive decline so early in their tenure.  Yes, I know Reagan was shitting his pants and had Alzheimer's but that was at the end.  He literally can't remember the Sec of Def's name during the largest foreign policy debacle since Saigon.  He can't answer questions from the press core who all voted for him, besides Doocey.  He also has done poorly at everything.

Tbh I think he resigns by 22 midterms.  His poll numbers are plummeting and they are obviously inflated to begin because pollsters are biased. Also, like OP notes, the liberal media is turning on him.  They wouldn't do that unless they were instructed too. You can tell because they all move in unison.  Look at Cuomo, he was forced out - Biden is creepier than he was (see countless photos of him groping / sniffing/ grabbing children in a perverted manner)

 

First of all, this thread has nothing to do with Trump and I never said I am one of his supporters.  Second, it is obvious to anyone that Trump was mentally there, whether you liked him or not.  He faced tough questions multiple times a week, did 3 hour televised rallies, and was constantly on camera. Biden does none of that.

 

Also, like OP notes, the liberal media is turning on him.  They wouldn't do that unless they were instructed too. You can tell because they all move in unison.  Look at Cuomo, he was forced out - Biden is creepier than he was (see countless photos of him groping / sniffing/ grabbing children in a perverted manner)

A lot of people have noticed this, even Biden's team, which is in disbelief over the bad coverage. No one really knows the answer, but the suspicion is that they're trying to set up the pretext for 25th Amendment-ing Biden, which many people thought was the obvious course of action the Dems were setting up all the way back in 2020. 

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Also, like OP notes, the liberal media is turning on him.  They wouldn't do that unless they were instructed too. You can tell because they all move in unison.  Look at Cuomo, he was forced out - Biden is creepier than he was (see countless photos of him groping / sniffing/ grabbing children in a perverted manner)

A lot of people have noticed this, even Biden's team, which is in disbelief over the bad coverage. No one really knows the answer, but the suspicion is that they're trying to set up the pretext for 25th Amendment-ing Biden, which many people thought was the obvious course of action the Dems were setting up all the way back in 2020. 

The only reason he's getting bad coverage from the corporate press is because he's withdrawing from a war. Remember one of the few times they were ALL cheering on Trump was when he started up Syria bombing campaigns again. The corporate press has always been a warmongering cesspool whose only humanitarian concern shows up when we're in the process of withdrawing from a conflict, then turns invisible during one as we're slaughtering enemies and causing collateral damage in the thousands. The people at the Atlantic, NYT, and other major news organizations are blood soaked monsters going as far back as WWI.  

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

The only POTUS in our history who has resigned was Nixon and he was going to be removed if he did not resign.  We have had lots of presidents who have handled situations poorly and did not resign.  The concept that Biden is going to resign over Afghanistan is asinine

 
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There are 41 months (almost to the day) remaining in Biden's term. I have no idea how he makes it to the end with the obvious cognitive decline. That's not a partisan shot; I genuinely have no clue how he makes it to the finish line. 41 months is eons with the elderly. 

If cognitive ability was a criteria to elect a president, neither Trump or Biden would have become the POTUS.   

 
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There are 41 months (almost to the day) remaining in Biden's term. I have no idea how he makes it to the end with the obvious cognitive decline. That's not a partisan shot; I genuinely have no clue how he makes it to the finish line. 41 months is eons with the elderly. 

If cognitive ability was a criteria to elect a president, neither Trump or Biden would have become the POTUS.   

Jesus Christ. This isn't about Trump! We are talking about a man who is literally in cognitive decline. Not haha this is funny or my political opponent is evil. We are talking about literally dementia.  

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I didn’t like Trump all that much but what did he do that is even close to as horrific as the absolute disaster that is transpiring in Afghanistan? Cant use the words “Russia” or “collusion” though since at best there’s scant evidence.
 

You have numerous Lords in the UK who are openly decrying Biden and the US. You have other close allies in Germany and France who are saying similar things behind closed doors. The level at which this foreign policy fuck up has destroyed goodwill really cannot be understated. And now you have an already pretty aggressive China rattling their sabers even more and their propaganda is now sending out the message that the US will abandon their allies and won’t protect Taiwan. The retreat is looking worse and worse every day and yet Biden is on vacation before, during and after it. Won’t answer any press questions and when he does, if it’s not given to him ahead of time, he can’t handle it and shuts down. Case in point, the sham of a press conference yesterday where they pre-picked 4 questions and when the NPR guy went off-script, Biden stormed off the stage.

Now add this to the crisis on the Southern border, which Kamala is supposed to be handling despite literally never going there, record inflation and losing his thoughts mid-sentence/calling people by the wrong name, etc and it’s not unreasonable to say that his presidency has been an unmitigated disaster to date.
 

It was sure good of him to get us back into the Paris Agreement and an Iran deal though, those sure look like they’re going to make real impacts! And also great and not at all a chance for failure, 50% of all new vehicles will be electric by 2030! And good job with getting the word out of vaccines! Missed your target by 1400 bps but maybe $100 per person will help! Might have been better if you hadn’t made it a political issue though, maybe you and Kamala shouldn’t have said things along the lines of “I’m not getting it if Trump says I should!”

 

Biden euro

Lol, now all of a sudden what Europe thinks matters?  During Trump's administration it was "who the fuck cares what they think we pay their defense budget".  Even if Afghanistan is 100 times worse, his approval won't be as bad as Trump's with Europe.

 

I don’t think Biden will resign

I don’t get how WHO membership is turning our backs on Taiwan’s (future) defense.

I’ll await the final outcome of the Afghanistan withdrawal to then assess.  Right now us regular folks are getting tidbits of info. Right now it’s a military operation. 
 

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The WHO does not allow Taiwan to be a member because they do not recognize Taiwan as a country independent of China.   Unsurprisingly, China is a member and has significant influence on the org. The equivalent of this would be us joining an alliance with Middle Eastern countries that specifically state that Israel isn’t a legitimate country. This is the reason why Trump pulled us out of the WHO. They’ve also been criticized for trying to divert investigation of the Covid lab leak , supporting seafood market hypothesis even when there was very little (if any) evidence, etc. always trying to protect the CCP.

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I don't think Biden will resign

I don't get how WHO membership is turning our backs on Taiwan's (future) defense.

I'll await the final outcome of the Afghanistan withdrawal to then assess.  Right now us regular folks are getting tidbits of info. Right now it's a military operation. 
 

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