My personal opinion is that Kim Jong is bluffing and that when Trump threatens his country with annihilation, he will back down. If the North Koreans launch a first strike, China will stop backing them and they will capitulate.
But let's assume worst case scenario: We go to war with North Korea and China enters on North Korea's side. World War III has started. Would you go fight? What if you were drafted?
While I want war to be avoided, I'm not some draft-dodging pussy. If I'm called, I'd go fight for my country. If the US mainland is directly attacked, I'd enlist. If I enlisted, I'd join the Air Force and try to be part of a bomber squadron.
I served once, if the DoD needs me again i'll go.
Same. But, @yankee Doodle you won't get drafted (plenty of reservist and guardsmen would go before you) and mainland won't be attacked (guns behind every blade of grass) so you have nothing to worry about.
I'm still on IRR for another year, and I was ADA. I'm actually pretty worried about getting called up. But yes, I'd go. Super prefer not to though.
Nope. Rather let others die for me.
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I don't think any war now or in the future would be fought in mass numbers on the ground. Especially in WWIII possibility, because missiles and technology have advanced so much.
Areas like Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan are different because it's hard to identify who is the real enemy.
Depends on the cause. Looking to American history, there is only 1 war in which I would have been willing to serve (and potentially die)--World War 2. Every other war in American history, while potentially justifiable and good for the country (e.g. the Korean War), is not one I'd have been willing to serve in, including the Civil War and American Revolution.
If North Korea were to strike the U.S. then yes, I'd be willing to serve for that cause. With that said, that's simply not going to happen. All of this is bluster.
No. Life is too short, precious, and rich to risk it trying to kill people I don’t know, who I harbor no personal enmity against, for reasons I don’t fully understand. War shaves something off your soul and if you’re not 100% convinced of the cause and it’s dignity it’s a terribly steep price to pay.
That being said, I’m thankful others don’t share my views as I recognize it’s the reason I’m allowed to hold them.
God I hope @tna responds to this lmao
My brother is a fighter pilot.
American foreign policy since World War II has been based on a simple premise: the United States will create a global security structure for its allies, enabling them to access resources and markets the world over without the need to protect themselves, those resources or those markets. In exchange, those allies would allow the Americans to fight the Cold War their way. In essence the Americans bribed up an alliance via the Bretton Woods system to fight the Soviets, and in doing so not only attracted the allegiance of traditional cultural allies, but also countries with which the Americans had fought long, bitter wars – up to and including the former Axis and the U.S. own former colonial master. The end result was the strongest military alliance in human history, and also history’s longest and greatest period of peace and prosperity because nearly every imperial power of the past was on the same side (with the notable and obvious exception of the Soviet Union).
This is why all foreign engagements since WWII have involved trying to kill people we don't know, who we harbor no enmity against, for reasons we -- as Americans -- don't understand. We were never doing it for ourselves, but for the world... for globalism, capitalism, free trade, cheap labor, comparative advantage, liberalism... our world doesn't exist without this underpinning. It gets a lot uglier.
America will do just fine. We have security, cheap fucking energy, and the most productive tract of land on Earth in the greater Midwest. It's the rest of the world you have to ask yourself if you care about their safety, and their prosperity. That's what we fight for. As Louis CK says, "You really have a choice: You can have candles and horses and be a little kinder to each other, or let someone very far away suffer immeasurably just so you can leave a mean comment on YouTube while you're taking a shit."
Interesting perspective that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing.
This right here is gold. Perfectly said. +SB
I think the US trying to play the world police has caused more issues then it has solved. This isn't really related but I remember when John McCain was pictured 12 months before with some ISIS guys in Syria. That has stuck with me and I believe something more sinister is going on ie the Industrial Military complex
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Congrats and thanks for the service man. I don’t know what reaction you’re trying to solicit, but I’m not going to trade insults. I’m comfortable in my masculinity, my beliefs, and my response to the question.
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Under this scenario, wouldn't you have some personal enmity against a nation who launched a nuclear strike on the U.S and the soldiers defending that nation?
I would but I've got these terrible bone spurs in my feet.
Which foot?
Depends on who are the leaders, who is the enemy, what is the cause.
Would I fight to protect my country against an invader? Likely. Would I fight in Russia for the American empire? Lol no.
I'd fight for tits and wine.
War is DUMB and USELESS. Why can't we all just hold hands, sit in a CIRCLE, smoke CANNABIS and sing KUMBAYA together?
Considering right now we are flouting NK as the boogeyman, in the future it might be China, Russia, or aliens, I'm not at all interested in fighting against a people whom I have no resentment for at all.
I could see the next war caused by a false flag as a 'call to action,' it has happened countless times and I'm sure will inevitably happen again. I have no interest in fueling the Military Industrial Complex for the benefit of a small few.
You're right that "false flags" have happened a lot in the past, even in the U.S. (see: Spanish-American War). In the case of North Korea, however, they actually are the boogeyman, so-to-speak. It's literally one of the most evil regimes in human history.
So, just to be clear - as an American, you have no resentment for a dictator who owns sex slaves, has committed fratricide, straps people to anti-aircraft guns and executes them brutally, in front of bystanders, all for the "crimes" of doing things that would be considered free expression in this country?
You have no resentment for the military and scientific bureaucracy that he sits on top of, that enables and congratulates his savagery, and which is currently building ICBMs for him? ICBMs that he intends to use on us or our allies, should he decide that we aren't giving him the respect that a god deserves?
Yeah, of course you don't have resentment for one of the millions of average, starving North Koreans. Neither do I. I'm sure the average American didn't have resentment for the average German prior to WWII, who lived in a desperate state due to his economy being destroyed thanks to the treaty of Versailles.
The point is not whether you resent the average "others" who will be fighting on the other side of a hypothetical war - if you have a modicum of humanity, of course you dont. The point is that sometimes, decent people live under destructive, dangerous regimes. Unfortunately, those regimes sometimes reach a point where no amount of nebulous goodwill towards their starving citizens is enough to avert global consequences, and hence, we go to war.
It always surprises me how much cognitive dissonance finds a home on WSO. People saying they want to be investment bankers, while in the same breath blurting out some drivel about the military industrial complex. Give me a break.
in a heartbeat. if I couldn't get into the SEALs, I'd be a USMC officer. I hope we never go to war, ever again, but sometimes war is necessary and if I'm called upon, I'd want to serve my country
realistically, however, our military is so huge that it'd never come down to the draft.
I would go, probably as a volunteer to make sure the men fighting next to me are also volunteers. If the war stretched long enough that the draft is needed, something has definitely gone wrong.
Nope. Served once and paid my dues. I've seen too many of my friends come back with missing limbs, PTSD, or worse-and that was for a war that, under the best circumstances, could be described as "misguided". I just don't trust our (political) leaders enough given their history of favoring bureaucratic objectives over troop safety, chickenhawking, mismanagement, and unjust military campaigns. I don't even trust these guys to properly run the VA.
I wouldn't. I don't believe you fight for your country. I feel sorry for all the soldiers that loose thier lives in the name of a Nation, where the ppl who actually declare war of benefit from it or even decide how to attack are, are not even close to the battlefield
Hi, I am David Mitchel working as essay writer at Done essays. My opinion on this topic I would fight for my country. I have a family too. My father is serving in the Army, currently deployed to UN peace force. I would prefer to die for my motherland.
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