Goldman vs. Morgan Stanley
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(Chimp, 3
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on 12/7/09 at 10:48pm
I'm trying to get into banking, and want to know which is best.
I'm going to have to enter at the Analyst level as the small venture I created upon graduating is (basically) running on its on.
There's no difference in pay between the two @ the Analyst level... right?
Please explain your choice!





Piper Jaffray has both beat.
Piper Jaffray has both beat.
You should choose
Piper Jaffray. It's an up and coming boutique bank. A lot of guys from Goldman and MS left for Piper jaffray, and they're getting mad deal flow. Pay about 1.5x any bulge bracket.
Great minds think alike,
Great minds think alike, 1styearbanker.
For sure, check out megafunds
For sure, check out megafunds like KRR and Carlyle. Almost all of them are from Piper Jaffray.
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For sure, check out megafunds like KRR and Carlyle. Almost all of them are from Piper Jaffray.
KKR* =P
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Even Jeffrey Chiang passed up
Even Jeffrey Chiang passed up on his Bank of Ameria and MS offers to join Piper Jaffray..nuff said..
SirBankAlot & 1styear, The
SirBankAlot & 1styear,
The Piper Jaffray jokes were hilarious months ago. Seriously, I challenge you to come up with something new. I picture you two nerds right now still laughing about it. And no, I definitely do not work at PJ.
Tyler Durden,
You have some reading to do on this website. Sounds like you have a lot to learn about this industry.
The Piper jokes are getting
The Piper jokes are getting old. 1YB, you really confuse me -- sometimes I read your posts and you actually give reasonable advice. But generally, it's just crap like this. I don't understand how you are actually a first-year analyst and get off by making posts like this. It's amazing.
Thanks h.e., I know both are
Thanks h.e.,
I know both are top notch. Conventional wisdom and popular culture would say Goldman Sachs, but the league tables this year say quite different. Which IBD is stronger today?
Ok let me clear it up for
Jimbrowningu: Ok let me clear it up for you. I'm a black box. I spit out what I get.
If the question is reasonable and the person really needs help, then I give constructive advice.
However, if there are a bunch of idiots or a stupid question (which there usually is 65% of the time), then I respond alike. I mean look at this kid's post. Poor grammar, horrible diction, and a very nebulous understanding with absolutely no motivation to run a search. Plus this question is completely toolish and the kid obviously just created an account to screw around.
I mean read this: "I'm going to have to enter at the Analyst level as the small venture I created upon graduating is (basically) running on its on. "
I can either laugh or cry at stupid threads like these and I choose the former, thus the sarcastic response. However, if he were to do a basic search and wrote well-addressed questions + sentences, then I would be more than happy to offer a pleasant response such as "It depends.... MS M&A and GS TMT are the best groups.....blah blah blah".
Hope that helps buddy.
PS: Why doesn't this kid get into both firms and then ask? I wouldn't even be surprised if this guy's just a troll.
I think what h.e. was trying
I think what h.e. was trying to say is that if you want to be a banker, you're probably going to need to get up to speed on the industry. A good place to start would be to ensure you actually understand what we do in banking. I will say that the presumption that you know very little about banking stems from the fact that (1) you are presuming you can get into both GS and MS, and (2) you asked about salary differences at the analyst level. To have any shot at breaking into banking, you're going to need to do your homework.
Fair enough
Jimbrowningu: Ok let me clear it up for you. I'm a black box. I spit out what I get.
If the question is reasonable and the person really needs help, then I give constructive advice.
However, if there are a bunch of idiots or a stupid question (which there usually is 65% of the time), then I respond alike. I mean look at this kid's post. Poor grammar, horrible diction, and a very nebulous understanding with absolutely no motivation to run a search. Plus this question is completely toolish and the kid obviously just created an account to screw around.
I mean read this: "I'm going to have to enter at the Analyst level as the small venture I created upon graduating is (basically) running on its on. "
I can either laugh or cry at stupid threads like these and I choose the former, thus the sarcastic response. However, if he were to do a basic search and wrote well-addressed questions + sentences, then I would be more than happy to offer a pleasant response such as "It depends.... MS M&A and GS TMT are the best groups.....blah blah blah".
Hope that helps buddy.
Fair enough. I actually enjoy your posts on occasion, and generally share similar feelings towards the poster. However, I do ask that you come up with some new/more offensive material. Every time I see "Piper Jaffray" spewed sarcastically, I can only think of PiperJaffrayChiang, and he is the worst.
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Is anybody else curious what
Is anybody else curious what the small venture he created was?
Because I am.
Both are excellent, I'd pick
Both are excellent, I'd pick MS if I had a choice. I get the feeling you're allowed to be more of an individual there from the guys I know at the bank.
Actually yes
It's sort of like a Catch-22
Forget Moron Stanley and
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We are excited to formally extend to you an offer to join Bank of Ameria
The problem with the PJ jokes
Piper Jaffray jokes
Giddy up
Not sure why you say you