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12/12/12

WSO, They say not to give up and that you'll succeeded, but how much sh*t do you have to go through? How many times do you have to fail in order to succeed?

Need motivation monkeys, dont post YouTube videos of athletes or pornstars...I need real stories.

Mod (Andy) note: See great responses below by UFOinsider & rufiolove

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1/20/12

great posts UFO & rufio!!!

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1/20/12

AVPGuerilla thanks for sharing....now send a turd mail to your previous ops boss

1/20/12

AVP Guerilla great post, I hope the best for you! Thanks for the encouragement

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

In reply to Ambition
1/21/12

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Nothing short of everything will really do.

1/21/12
1/21/12

go.with.the.flow:
WSO, They say not to give up and that you'll succeeded, but how much sh*t do you have to go through? How many times do you have to fail in order to succeed?

Need motivation monkeys, dont post YouTube videos of athletes or pornstars...I need real stories.

You said no YouTube, but I really like this advice so I'm posting a link anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBlJVazr4A0&hd=1

1/22/12

First, I want to say that the stories posted by Rufio, UFO, and AVP were amazing. Impressive. I enjoyed reading them and I'm glad you shared your experiences. I SBed each one. With that said, I think I'm going to be the contrarian in this thread and ask you: Are you looking for a means to continue what you're doing? Or are you simply looking for a reason?

Based on my experiences dealing with hardship, when you really want something bad, you don't really care how much effort the endeavor takes; you don't really care what other people think; in fact, you don't really think at all, you just do. I've come to realize that there is no such thing as hard or easy; rather, you're either doing something you want to do, or something that you don't. How often do you hear people complaining about how much effort that had to exert when sleeping with a hot chick they met at the party last night. Didn't think so.

If you're feeling burntout and/or disillusioned (and I'm not insinuating that's the case with you; rather, I'm pre-emptively writing this in case someone that is actually unsure about the profession reads this thread), I would recommend re-evaluating why exactly you are doing what you are doing instead of looking for others for encouragement. Otherwise, you run the risk of "wanting" something because you heard stories about how bad other people wanted it, which is downright dangerous.

In reply to econ
1/23/12

econ:
go.with.the.flow:
WSO, They say not to give up and that you'll succeeded, but how much sh*t do you have to go through? How many times do you have to fail in order to succeed?

Need motivation monkeys, dont post YouTube videos of athletes or pornstars...I need real stories.

You said no YouTube, but I really like this advice so I'm posting a link anyway: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBlJVazr4A0&hd=1[/q...

all good brah

In reply to Culcet
1/23/12

Culcet:
First, I want to say that the stories posted by Rufio, UFO, and AVP were amazing. Impressive. I enjoyed reading them and I'm glad you shared your experiences. I SBed each one. With that said, I think I'm going to be the contrarian in this thread and ask you: Are you looking for a means to continue what you're doing? Or are you simply looking for a reason?

Based on my experiences dealing with hardship, when you really want something bad, you don't really care how much effort the endeavor takes; you don't really care what other people think; in fact, you don't really think at all, you just do. I've come to realize that there is no such thing as hard or easy; rather, you're either doing something you want to do, or something that you don't. How often do you hear people complaining about how much effort that had to exert when sleeping with a hot chick they met at the party last night. Didn't think so.

If you're feeling burntout and/or disillusioned (and I'm not insinuating that's the case with you; rather, I'm pre-emptively writing this in case someone that is actually unsure about the profession reads this thread), I would recommend re-evaluating why exactly you are doing what you are doing instead of looking for others for encouragement. Otherwise, you run the risk of "wanting" something because you heard stories about how bad other people wanted it, which is downright dangerous.


This is very well stated. More than a few posts here fall along the lines of what you're talking about. While it's possible to help keep someone's spirits up so they make the full effort (something I like to do), it's impossible to reach someone if they're not doing this because they really want to. What someone wants to do is up to them, but this is kind of a hard field to work in if you don't want to be here: some people do it, but I can't understand why.

BTW, thanks for the SB, I'd give you one but I have a slight account debit at the moment (see profile, it will make sense). Pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today? :D

Get busy living

In reply to UFOinsider
1/23/12

UFOinsider:
Culcet:
First, I want to say that the stories posted by Rufio, UFO, and AVP were amazing. Impressive. I enjoyed reading them and I'm glad you shared your experiences. I SBed each one. With that said, I think I'm going to be the contrarian in this thread and ask you: Are you looking for a means to continue what you're doing? Or are you simply looking for a reason?

Based on my experiences dealing with hardship, when you really want something bad, you don't really care how much effort the endeavor takes; you don't really care what other people think; in fact, you don't really think at all, you just do. I've come to realize that there is no such thing as hard or easy; rather, you're either doing something you want to do, or something that you don't. How often do you hear people complaining about how much effort that had to exert when sleeping with a hot chick they met at the party last night. Didn't think so.

If you're feeling burntout and/or disillusioned (and I'm not insinuating that's the case with you; rather, I'm pre-emptively writing this in case someone that is actually unsure about the profession reads this thread), I would recommend re-evaluating why exactly you are doing what you are doing instead of looking for others for encouragement. Otherwise, you run the risk of "wanting" something because you heard stories about how bad other people wanted it, which is downright dangerous.


This is very well stated. More than a few posts here fall along the lines of what you're talking about. While it's possible to help keep someone's spirits up so they make the full effort (something I like to do), it's impossible to reach someone if they're not doing this because they really want to. What someone wants to do is up to them, but this is kind of a hard field to work in if you don't want to be here: some people do it, but I can't understand why.

BTW, thanks for the SB, I'd give you one but I have a slight account debit at the moment (see profile, it will make sense). Pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today? :D

Haha don't worry UFO ill hook him up :P

I want a lady on the street, but a freak in the bed,

Go Bucks!!

1/23/12

I have to confess: this topic is my go-to inspiration primarily because I haven't heard back from any places I've applied to for summer internships at all.

Damn. Congrats to all of you have already started first-round/final interviews.

1/23/12

It truly is a rough environment out there. The old ways of getting a job through a combination of high GPA, nice resume, OCR are all neccessary, but not sufficient. You just have to learn the rules of the game and how to hustle and take what is rightfully yours. It is 100% true when people say that you are not given anything in life. You have to know what you want and know how to get it.

12/12/12

born in hell, forged from suffering, hardened by pain.

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12/13/12

Figured I would post on this thread, hopefully a different perspective will help someone trying to break in...

WSO is an unbelievable resource of information but you have to realize that it is not reality. So many cliche responses, ideas, and opinions are regurgitated over and over that people start to accept them as set-in-stone fact.

Common schools of thought that are plastered all over WSO threads:
1) Once you start in PWM it is impossible to get out of. You will be forever pigeonholed. You won't learn anything or gain any valuable skills.
2) MSFs are a waste of money. They are only for undergrad underachievers who couldn't get a job.
3) IBD is the end-all-be-all.

Its a good thing I decided not listen because:
1) I started in PWM after undergrad. Yes - I did not do any modeling or learn in depth technical skills, but that environment boosted my people/communication/presentation skills, confidence, etc. to a ridiculous level.
2) I am currently in an MSF. I have been learning a ton and gaining plenty of technical and modeling skills. Just went through recruiting season and I was blown away by how comfortable I was at networking events, info sessions, interviews, and superdays (mostly because how much I matured through my prior WE in PWM). I had a few interviewers outright tell me at the end of interviews what a relief it was to interview someone relaxed and personable because everyone else interviewing was either acting extremely proper/not-relaxed or stressed out and nervous.
3) I received multiple FO offers (these aren't BB but very solid shops) and guess what? ... I actually turned down an IBD offer (gasp!) for similar but different FO non-IBD role.

Moral of the story = Blaze your own path... and limit the amount of time you spend on WSO. Get out in the real world and experience things.

I wish I didn't have to take the long way to get to where I am but I am definitely better for it. Be true to yourself, develop your goals, determine different paths to reach them, prepare prepare prepare, and then just put in the time, effort, and hard work.

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12/13/12

UFOinsider +1 its stories like that that make myself feel like I have a easy route. Your story is truly motivational and quite inspiring to keep monkeys like me on the grind. I appreciate it brother.

12/13/12

UFOinsider, rufio and AVPGuerilla have great inspirational stories. OP never give up. If you understand why you have to do something, eventually you'll figure out how. Theres a country song on the radio down here: "some dreams drag you around" Its painfully true.
Anybody, that has ever wanted something that bad never gives up. Life can take a massive dump and you still keep going.

Honestly, I've always wanted to run my own PE shop. Even when I delude myself into thinking I could be happy being a beach bum, actor, a 9-5er. etc. It took me six years to come back to a dream I've had since high school. At this point, I've come to the point where I literally won't die till I get there. Even if it means that my first LBO is cobbling together 5 franchises of Little Caesar's and selling them later.

State School
Economics at 3.4ish

3 years working in retail. Hopes of going to law school so I can be an M & A attorney. Get dinged. Spent a year trying to get to a top 20. Crappy GMAT. Seriously, contemplated being a Pro Bull rider to set me apart on my story. Spend 3 more years in retail management. Finally get a break by networking into a temporary tech position at a BB. Honestly almost crapped my pants. What the hell do I know about DBM, business objects, etc. Getting forged in a tech fire at the moment. I will make it to full time, then to BO, then IBD.

Along the way, I had the usually personal stuff, love, being broke, getting hosed on my mortgage, etc.

I know won't stop, ever. Even if its a Little Caesar's and I'm 112.

KEEP GOING

PE is the new black.

In reply to barbariansatthegates
12/13/12

barbariansatthegates:

I know I won't stop, ever. Even if its a Little Caesar's and I'm 112.

KEEP GOING

+1

12/13/12

Great post.

It's not about the money. It's about the game between people.

In reply to Culcet
12/15/12

Culcet:
Based on my experiences dealing with hardship, when you really want something bad, you don't really care how much effort the endeavor takes; you don't really care what other people think; in fact, you don't really think at all, you just do. I've come to realize that there is no such thing as hard or easy; rather, you're either doing something you want to do, or something that you don't. How often do you hear people complaining about how much effort that had to exert when sleeping with a hot chick they met at the party last night. Didn't think so.

If you're feeling burntout and/or disillusioned (and I'm not insinuating that's the case with you; rather, I'm pre-emptively writing this in case someone that is actually unsure about the profession reads this thread), I would recommend re-evaluating why exactly you are doing what you are doing instead of looking for others for encouragement. Otherwise, you run the risk of "wanting" something because you heard stories about how bad other people wanted it, which is downright dangerous.

Incredible advice in an amazing thread. SB'd.
I felt burnout several times, but I never wanted anything this bad before and the re-evaluation just reinforced my belief - I am willing to do ANYTHING to get it. Glad to see I am not alone.

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12/16/12

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