Passing along a resume?
I go to a semi-target school and know that a lot of BB banks don't recruit here. I've gotten in contact with some alumni and am pretty sure that they would be willing to pass my resume along for an SA position when I ask next year.
Do they just forward your resume to HR? If so, is there even any advantage to applying online? I'm just curious how BB banks treat referrals.
They usually forward it to HR. There is an advantage because a current employee is lending his goodwill behind your name vs just a cold resume drop where you're nothing but a name on a resume.
It helps a lot to have your resume passed along internally, even if it's just to HR. I'd say I got a solid 4 or 5 interviews simply because of that during my senior year.
Certainly helps to have it passed internally. As the person who has passed it on has supposedly screened you, it provides a degree of assurance to HR that you would be a good candidate.
From a UK perspective, often the internal referral can get you past the initial online aptitude test stage and get you straight through to an interview.
Would always suggest that where possible, you get your CV forwarded internally as it will certainly help your case.
advice on passing along resume (Originally Posted: 12/20/2007)
I am a junior preparing to apply to BB IBD summer positions - I'm seeking advice on how to handle using a contact at GS -
I know him pretty well, he's at the managing director level in a group I want to work in. I knew him well this summer and have stayed in contact through the fall via email. He told me a couple of times this summer that he would help me when it came time to apply but never told me any specifics. I don't know if I should just ask or what the appropriate way to handle this situation is - should I tell him I'm applying and wait for him to offer or is it ok to ask directly?
Also, on a side note, when is the appropriate time to apply? My schools deadline is right in the middle of January.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
contacts such as this are hard to come by. my advice, take up his offer and ask point blank for help. Personally, I would be direct. He knows you want the job so ask for it!
-And if you want a friend, get a dog-
G.G.
thanks for the advice. i think thats likely the best way to do it as well.
Passing Along a Resume (Originally Posted: 12/03/2007)
I know several people working in banking. I have a slightly-professional relationship with them. What is the best way of going about asking them to pass along my resume for SA positions without compromising relationships? I occassionally meet some of them in person.
By compromising relationships, I mean, I don't want to seem like I'm using them. I've known some of them for a while now and would hate to see them think of me in a bad way
They probably already know that you want to get a job in whatever they're doing.
Ask them what they think the best way of working your way into an interview is.
If they are willing to forward your resume, they'll tell you. If you ask straight up, it makes for an awkward situation.
If you're 25+ years younger, these guys won't feel used. They are usually very rich and have cemented their positions for the long haul. Normally for networking I'd say try and add value in some way and then ask for help, but how much can you really help a guy who makes 7 figures when you're still a college student. Just be interested and sell him on yourself and ask if he could help you out. Tell him you know he is very successful and he has been someone you have tried to emulate. If he's a good guy, he'll help you out. Always try to reiterate how interested and passionate you are about finance and show your technical knowledge. They don't like to put their neck out unless they can pretty much guarantee you won't embarass them.
Show interest in what they're doing and ask a lot of questions about how they got into it, what they like/don't like about it, and what they do day-to-day. Say that you're interested in getting into banking and wanted to speak with them and find out what it's like firsthand. Also mention in passing that you're applying to SA positions. At this point if they don't offer to pass along your resume, you can bring it up, maybe just ask if he knows whether they have any SA positions instead of asking to just pass along your resume.
Of course they're going to know what you're after but they expect this and it's still a lot better to spend some time with them "selling" yourself rather than outright asking for them to pass your resume along.
Resume referral question (Originally Posted: 09/04/2010)
Hey everyone, First time posting. I have a quick question about resume referral. A contact agreed to forward my resume about 10 days ago, but I haven't heard back from her or HR. Just sent a follow-up email and got an out-of-office reply that she is on vacation 'till the third week of September and will have limited access to the internet. This obviously isn't good b/c selections are made this month for interviews next month. I have another higher-up contact at the firm (though not as close as this associate), so should I ask this contact to forward mine as well? They don't know each other and I've heard crazy stories on here about not asking more than 1 person to send your resume so I'm pretty confused. The last thing I wanna do is to burn bridges and shoot myself in the foot. What should I do in this situation? Anyone has experience with this? Inputs appreciated.
It's good that you've been doing your homework, but I would take what's said in any anonymous online forums with a grain of salt since you never know, the poster (myself included) could be a 12 year old.
That said I've had fairly extensive experience with recruiting and I can assure you having multiple people forward your resume is a great thing. It just shows you have a varied support base. By all means, have as many contacts as possible push for you. Oftentimes they can work collaboratively.
Thanks GutShot. Do I need to mention that I already asked another person to pass my resume along? don't want to make the higher-up contact think he is just the last resort (though I don't even know if my other contact did actually forward it or not). Plus, how do they react when they learn that I asked both of them to forward my resume from each other or HR (aka, would they think I'm using them)? I'm completely new to this whole thing, so I'm probably being pretty paranoid lol. Anybody else? Thanks.
Forwarding your resume (Originally Posted: 12/16/2009)
I am from a semi-target school and I have had to do a lot of leg work to even be considered for interviews. My question is about having contacts forwarding my resume to Human Resources. How much weight does this actually carry? For the most part, I have MD's forwarding my resume (a few VP's and Associates too). It seems like there are a good number of resumes being forwarded by other people in similar situations. Do all the resumes get looked at? If so, there must be a lot of other qualified candidates forwarding their resumes and I am sure HR cannot accommodate everyone for interviews. For instance, I forwarded my resume to a Senior MD at a top restructuring firm today. I have a very competitive resume (confirmed by many) and he is a very senior guy at a firm that is hiring. He still couldn't guarantee me an interview. Is this just him being conservative or is it really just that competitive? Also, does the seniority of the contact make that much of a difference in how seriously a forwarded resume is considered?
Thanks for the help guys.
The level of your contact carries a huge amount of weight. Obviously an MD passing your resume onto HR has a much bigger impact than an analyst or associate. If the MD REALLY liked you, he could guarantee an interview. That being said I think your chances of getting a first round are pretty good with a senior MD contact unless you come from a huge school where this MD is just passing along everything he recieves from current students and not making any distinctions or expressing preference, then it's just an additional round of screening with HR, but still better than having to apply through the website. The best way to ensure you get an interview is to do something to stand out in a positive light. Ask to set up a time where you can have an informational interview, ask good questions, just show some way you will go above and beyond and do everything that could ever be wanted from an analyst. If you stand out, and he specifically says to HR "this kid is solid" you will get an interview, and from there you are probably on your own.
And yes... It is that competitive right now.
I think it'll probably get you at least a first round interview (especially if your resume is as competitive as you say it is and if you have a senior MD backing you). I also don't think there's going to be THAT many others doing the same thing, so you should be in good shape.
You seem very worried about it and you shouldn't be. It's definitely not the end-all-be-all of your chance at banking. I once had an associate forward my resume on to HR and I ended up with a first round interview because of it, so I do think it carries a good amount of weight. It basically "reassures" HR they're picking a good candidate because people at the firm already like him/her.
Good luck.
Resume forwarded by BB contact enough? (Originally Posted: 01/28/2011)
If a contact at BB says he forwarded my resume to HR, is that enough for a phone screen? (Non-target)
Should I be getting first round interviews for these banks yet?
it likely is enough for a first round interview, but honestly you never know i guess...the time frame is quite long, and i emailed all of my contacts (the ones who emailed me from HR after my referral) and they said not to worry, plenty of interviews in February
Have you applied online as well - you should definitely submit an application online as it is usually a requirement if there is a posting.
While it's definitely not a guarantee, it absolutely increases your chances (especially coming from a non-target) and will help quite a bit in terms of getting a 1st round (more so for boutiques - less staff means more impact from staff, but for BBs as well). That said, once you get the interview it falls on you to keep it going.
Keep in mind, however, that the interest of your contact and degree of push matter as well. If the contact drops your resume in a stack, that's one thing, but if he/she forward it to HR with a supportive email/goes to bat/etc, then that will definitely help more.
No it will not help unless the person is at VP level or higher. HR won't care about a random junior sending a CV. Having a VP recommendation is very powerfull.
I had this done from a MD. One of the analysts or associates came from my school works under this MD, and he is coming in about 2 weeks for on campus recruiting. I applied on my school job board and on their website, but haven't "officially" heard back yet. All i know is that I got the interview, which is what the MD told me.
It depends. I had VP's forward my resume at some places and was never called about an interview. I had associates at other places forward my resume and I got phone interviews. At one BB I had a phone interview (got it with help of a contact) and was never called back by the firm. HR wouldn't even respond to my contact to tell him that I had been dinged. Its really a shit show and you have no control over anything.
So how do nontargets even get phone interviews? If they don't come to campus and junior member flagging interview doesn't help? Does HR look at the resumes to decide?
Junior member resume pushes do help - they are not useless. That said, of course the more senior the banker, the better - analyst up through MD and starting from senior associate, the push begins to have a greater impact.
Non-targets get interviews by casting wide nets, building internship experience and reaching out to contacts - it's not easy, but if it were, everyone would be doing it. The key is to be persistent and to keep looking for new avenues and opportunities - hit the BBs down to the boutiques.
does anyone want to shed light on what exactly they are looking for in a phone screen/interview? behaviorals and technicals like a usual interview?
One of my friend had an interview with a BB recently. He told me it was mostly technical and some behavioral. We are both undergrad business majors(top 15 undergrad non target) so they tend to hit us with technicals a lot
thanks!
Thanks BankonBanking...till now I've mostly contacted junior members, but I guess I'll get start reaching out to more senior members.
anyone know how long it takes to get an update from HR after a phone screen?
A contact at firm to which I'm applying told me to send him my resume for him to pass along after I submit the online app (Originally Posted: 09/02/2014)
This firm also does OCR at my school and the position to which I'm applying is is listed on the career services page. If I'm applying on the firm's website and also have a FT employee passing along my resume, should I also apply through my career services, or is that unnecessary?
Sometimes it is required to also apply through the school's career services, so that they can include you in the on-campus interview scheduling system.
Thank you for the response!
How useful are simple resume forwards to HR? (Originally Posted: 12/11/2012)
Emailed a VP at a BB (not an alum, just random VP) asking to talk over the phone, got a response saying that he had forward my resume to HR and that's it.
Is this going to help me at all?
considering a resume forward just got me an interview tomorrow, potentially quite useful
Usually basically the same as a referral (in an application). Depending on who it is that forwards it, there is a good chance it will get you a first round interview (or get your resume looked at if it otherwise wouldn't be).
Forwarding Resume (Originally Posted: 09/05/2008)
When you have a contact at a bank (VP/MD level) that asks you to send your resume to him, should you still apply through your school for that position?
I'd like to avoid applying to the bank through the school if possible as I would then have to submit my transcript (big negative) as well. It would be much better if I can just give them my resume with cumulative gpa on it.
This is for Toronto positions btw, I don't think they ask for transcripts in the states.
Usually you'll have to follow through with formal recruiting procedures, especially if this is for a BB firm. Despite your transcript, you should be fine as far as getting an interview; having a contact will out-weigh some bad grades, especially if your overall GPA is good.
how bad are the grades? sub 3.0?
I wouldn't apply through your career center until HR asks you to. My guess is your contact will forward your resume to the appropriate person and they will then contact you asking you to formally register and apply. I would wait until they contact you to avoid creating confusion regarding your application.
How Does Passing Along a Resume Along Work? (Originally Posted: 07/31/2017)
I'm a rising senior (non-target) in a BB Wealth Management Internship Program. I've realized I want to stay with the same bank, but go into either IB or ER full-time (i know they're completely different). So long story short I've met with a VP and Director in each department to learn more about the business. They both liked me and passed my resume along, but said that almost all of their analyst roles are filled by their pipeline internships and campus recruiting. Sometimes they don't even post public applications links, and only invite people to apply directly. Is there a chance someone reaches out to me all things considered, or is "passing a resume along" a dead end.
Sometimes pass along resume is just something people say to take any obligation off of themselves. But if these guys work at your company and like you/ have to see you, they might forward the email to HR to have on record. Won't do much unless something is open, so you should stay on top of the timeline in case a spot opens up. There is a long line ahead of you it seems, but if you do a good job in your current department, I'm sure you can look around for other positions or switch firms and upgrade after 6-9 months
Passing along resume (Originally Posted: 01/29/2018)
Monkeys,
A quick question on networking. When someone offers passing along your resume to their recruiting team, would you still ask in the follow-up email to see if you could speak to other people in his team to get more insights? Thanks!
I don't see why not as long as you ask in an inquisitive and respectful manner. Good luck!
If i have someone who can pass my resume along to the higherups at McKinsey/Deloitte Consulting/KKR (Originally Posted: 10/25/2012)
will it help my cause any? because...i kinda have a shitty GPA right now.
I don't know if him passing it along to the higherups at those companies will help me any since i have a 2.9, atm. just like my username. kooinkidink.
oh this is for SA.
2.9 GPA at McK and KKR?
BO will probably a stretch. But I guess you could always start as a janitor and then try to transfer to BO in 5-6 years.
It would probably solidify your position if you could also throw in a GMAT in the 250-350 range.
I'm at a target and I only have 9 hours into my sophomore year, buddy. relax. At the end of this semester, I'm projecting a 3.49-3.58 depending on if i get an A in my 5th class. I took 3 classes last semester.
You really have to wait until you have a better GPA and something else to spice up your resume. It would be a very bad strategy to use your connections now, when you have no chance of an interview. So keep working on your GPA and do as much as you can of related stuff to make you look good.
K, thanks for the advice, Santini. :D cheers. I wish i could SB you, but i don't have any bananas. I can give you spirit baanan though, have fun spirit babanan.
MD passed my resume to recruiter and said to contact him if I don't get an SA interview. (Originally Posted: 07/26/2014)
I was able to get in contact with an alumni who's an MD at a BB bank. He's been at the bank for a while so I don't think he knows the recruiting schedule. He passed my resume to a recruiter and told me to contact him if I don't get an interview. The thing is, aren't interviews for SA 2015 positions in Jan 2015? I'm sure he's going to forget about me by then.What do I do? Do I tell him when recruiting is (that sounds like a bad decision to correct an md)?
Nope give him your resume and make sure to keep in touch with him. Once you get to a point a few months out make sure to remind him that you're still interested in internship positions and wanted to chat with him/see if he knows anyone else you could talk to/ whatever question you want to ask that makes you come across as interested.
He might not know the exact logistics of SA hiring, but I would have to assume that he has a general knowledge of when it occurs, especially as MDs are often present in final rounds for BB interviews. Don't correct him and don't come back seeming overeager. Thank him again and tell him that you want to stay in touch. In the meantime start working on your interview prep.
Hey congratulations on successful networking.
Can you please share how much did he know you before offering his reference and how did you pitch yourself?
I had a similar situation happen to me: a MD I worked with during a previous internship told me that he would fastrack me for fulltime recruiting for the next year. I kept in touch with him and when FT recruiting started, a HR told and said to me taht even though this MD really wanted me to join the bank (it was a BB), I still had to go through the whole regular process: applying online, doing the numerical/verbal test, phone interview, AC,... Total waste of my time
Is this in London UK or in North America? Totally different
Just follow up when time approaches. Time to work on another place.
Stay on top of it. Years ago i had a similar thing: Coffee => CV sent in the pm=> phone call 3 hours later, invitation to interview / "HR will be in touch. don't screw up the interview" => never heard anything
consider yourself lucky, stay on top of him and kill the interview
Passing resumes for friends as a signee (Originally Posted: 11/24/2010)
So I've signed with a BB and have been for a few months. Fairly friendly with HR.
One of my best friends is looking for an SA stint and I was wondering whether it would be frowned upon for me to pass his resume along to HR? His resume speaks for itself, HYP, varsity rowing, military experience quant major and several internships etc etc
Most firms have a referral program for college hires. Best to just go through official channels until you're an established member of the team.
as an intern, i was able to refer a friend for a FT position.. i don't think it would be frowned upon at all.
last date for alum to pass resume to HR (Originally Posted: 12/27/2010)
Does anyone know when're the last dates for alums to pass resume to HR for SA positions? I am waiting for fall grades and I think they could help my GPA a bit.. so should I wait? Fall grades will come out mid -Jan. Thanks.
No set date. I know a few people who got interviews and offers in March (maybe 1 in April).
For me, there was a instance where an alum forwarded my resume to HR and the next day I got a call saying their last Superday of the year was tomorrow and that they would like me to come down.....so no set limit, but you should get it in as soon as possible while they still have plenty of spots.
Is it worth the wait for a 0.1 gpa improvement, which is not 100% certain I'll get?
Probably not.
Should you contact HR if your GPA has gone up by .2 ?
Internship Question - Alumni at school passed on resume (Originally Posted: 08/14/2013)
A alumni at my school passed on my resume to the recruiter of the firm. However the problem is that, she will be going back to school for an MBA soon. So is it appropiate to ask her for the email of someone in hr that I can follow up with after she has left the firm?
I can't see anything wrong with that
Nothing wrong with that at all. Take a look for additional alumni within the firm that you can reach out too.
What's the best way to go about finding alumni at different firms? Linkedin?
LinkedIn definitely would be one of the best and easiest. I would also use your schools career center.
Is it OK to send contacts who have passed my resume to HR an updated resume? (Originally Posted: 11/21/2013)
The resume I've sent some contacts a month or so ago was, looking back, pretty awful and unclear. I've since updated it dramatically and hope to have this version shown to HR and my future interviewers - how should I go about doing this and is it even possible? Thanks!
HR should have contacted you when they submitted your resume. Just email HR a new one.
Don't see why not?
Wait till fall grades are up and email them the new résumé saying your GPA improved, that's what I'd do.
Pass resume for a family member? (Originally Posted: 12/15/2013)
Has anyone ever done this? And would only senior people be able to do this?
I am just wondering whether passing resume for family member for an opening within the firm would be frowned upon, esp when I have been there for only a few months.
Thanks.
No, but if they bomb the interview it'll make you look bad. So keep that in mind.
This opening is on a totally different department (different floor as well) - Would this still affect me? I have quite good relationships with the desk.
Thanks,
I don't think its frowned upon. As LBJ has said, you might get some ribbing if they bomb the interview
PWM resume forward? (Originally Posted: 05/14/2011)
I recently finished working a standard BofA ML PWM internship. The Registered Financial Associate offered to forward my resume to any job openings I saw online (IB FT recruiting in the Fall for LA/SF.) He told me to forward him the job code and he would forward my resume with a letter of rec. to the right person. I go to a non-target and my resume is solid; like everyone else I just need to get that interview.
Has anyone had success with something like this in the past? Will I be able to get interviews? Any thoughts/advice greatly appreciated.
incomplete resume (disregard blanks): http://www.razume.com/documents/19872
Hey,
One thing looking at your resume that i've read about is the word, powerpoint and excel thing - I think that's quite standard.
I'd elaborate more on your interests on the bottom. the pilot thing is pretty cool
goodluck!
The pilot thing is really cool. Will definitely look good imo and could be a topic of conversation at interviews.
Good input!
It's definitely helped in quite a few interviews so far; I find that almost everyone has considered learning to fly at some point. Highly recommend taking a lesson or two on the weekends if you ever have an open Sunday. Flying is incredibly easy it's just like driving in a 3 dimensional plane--just the landing and talking to Air Traffic Control that are difficult.
I don't really have much experience with anything other than Microsoft suite, should I just turn it into an 'Interest' section until I get a chance to work with some more specific platforms?
For my interests: Should I elaborate more on the Pilot's License (aircraft type, hours, ratings?) and is including 'Acrylic Painting' kind of gay? I'll include Beach Volleyball and elaborate on where I've traveled to (Central America and West Africa)
Don't put Microsoft in interests. Don't elaborate a ton about flying. Painting is not gay so keep it. For volleyball: did you travel for competitions?
I just play volleyball recreationally so I guess I won't include it and i'll keep painting. I just thought I might throw it on there because i'm a tall guy and I innevitably get the 'do you play basketball?' question. I don't, so it made sense to include the one sport I do play that makes use of my height.
I definitely appreciate the resume review but anyone have any insight on my original question? Will I get interviews from the PWM resume forward?
Well if volleyball is a passion of yours than include it if you have the space. Why not?
+SB for answer and personal insight into my original answer:
Will an assistant FA in Merrill PWM be able to get me FT IB interviews through internal channels?
@Turtles - i'll keep it to one line and include it if I have room, thanks.
networking question and getting resume forwarded (Originally Posted: 09/20/2010)
So I am looking for a full time job in S&T and recruiting at my school isn't great this year. A MD at a BB last year had asked for my resume but I already had an offer at the time. Now that I am looking for a full time job I contacted him again and gave him my resume. This was last Wed or so, and he responded asking what I did at my last internship and where it was (even though this was on resume, maybe he didn't bother to look, he is very senior). I responded, and he did not respond back.
Today I followed up saying I will be in town and want to get in touch or I can call him with a few questions as I am interested in his desk and what he does. He said he will be out of town next week but I can visit the trading floor anytime and sit with his desk. He also signed his name as a nickname, I assume it means I can skip the formality.
He never mentioned anything regarding my resume/passing it forward.
How should I go about asking him to forward my resume? And, how should I see him saying I can go to his desk anytime? Is he willing to help me or just being friendly/putting up with me?
Don't ask him to forward your resume. When he gets back (so noon after next Monday) email him and ask when he is available to meet and that your schedule is open. When you get to the desk, you will meet with him along with some of his friends. People on his desk, and some people that he works with (friends on another desk, a sales guy, ect) Listen intently to what these people say about their jobs, have some good questions (both general questions and follow up questions when they say something), ect. Act natural and connect with them..joke around if it is called for ect.
After you have met your contact and talked with people, and you are sort of about to leave, inquire about positions with the group or at the bank. At this point, you have met a lot of people and made an impression. If they like you and need someone, there is a very good chance that you will get an offer for that MD's group. If made an impression, but they don't need someone. The MD will most certainly check around the bank forward your resume to groups that are looking for people.
Ditto.
Thanks - so basically reply to his email that my schedule is open and I'll be in town next week or something?
Also, i really want to get on a trading desk... how brutal right now is S&T full time analyst programs? My school hardly has any posts and it's not like I go to a non-target. I wasn't sure if the market is that bad or its just my school.
I know a lot of trading interns didn't get positions from the BB I worked for over the summer. Lots of desks that thought they would be hiring ended up not.... but that's just one bank
Is a resume forward by an analyst going to help much? (Originally Posted: 07/06/2012)
If I talk to someone at a top bank in finance and they forward my resume will that help much in terms of getting an interview? Would the person have to forward the resume and also at the same time recommend me? Can't anyone just forward the resume without saying anything?
How is this even a question? I got my SA position at a solid AM firm this way...
I see, but I think one guy in credit risk for a BB forwarded my resume and I didn't get the interview. The resume wasn't my most up to date. I made a few changes but minor ones I believe.
So basically, even if the person has no role in recruiting, if I can get them to forward my resume, then I have done a good job networking with them?
Does the alumni who forwards my resume have anything to lose? Are they putting their credibility on the line by forwarding my resume? Could anything negative happen if for some reason they forward the resume of someone who interviews poorly?
Yes, but I called 30 people before one actually led to an offer. Also, for a person to actually help you, they have to "go to bat" for you, which means that you have to have a pretty good relationship with them. By the way, I'm a rising junior if that matters at all. I'm currently networking hard for next summer's recruiting.
An analyst forwarded my resume to the HR - zero interview; An MD forwarded my resume to the HR - interview scheduled soon;
So try to find people at higher level to do this for you, especially when you are not perceived as a "strong" candidate.
I'm in a junior position at a big 4 accounting firm. I get a lot of resumes from students where I went to school. The ones that get passed along are either stellar resumes from someone I don't know, or good/solid resumes from people that have reached out to me and I think would be a good fit. For them, I may give them some advice on how to improve the resume before I pass it along to senior managers and partners. Every one I've passed along has at least received an interview. The point of all this being that yes, an analyst can help you, but they aren't going to pass along every resume they get. They will be more inclined to help if you make an effort to connect with them rather than spamming their inbox with resumes.
i got superdays al a few banks through analysts.
Networking after resume forwarded to hiring manager - pointless or helpful? (Originally Posted: 12/07/2017)
I spoke with a VP who forwarded my resume to the person in charge of hiring (not the recruiter). There are a few people - some senior - in the group that are alumni from my school. Should I reach out to them too or will it not make a difference? This is for lateral hiring.
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JPM IB Resume Forward Help (Originally Posted: 01/07/2013)
I've networked a lot with alums at JPM, I really like the firm and it sounds like this is the right time to reach out to my contacts and send my resume in to HR to set up a first round interview. My concern is getting the interview - last year I applied for the NY investment banking program as a sophomore, sent my resume in to two alums to forward in, and never heard anything back.
I wouldn't have been surprised since I was a sophomore at a non-target, except I had worked at JPM the previous summer in TSS (BO/MO), and the two alums were both executive directors (right below MD), one in IB and one in S&T. Neither really interacted much with HR, but both alums were fairly high-up employees who liked me and sent my resume in. Should I directly ask them and my other contacts to specifically ask HR to set up an interview to avoid what happened last year, or is there some alternative to ensuring that I get an interview?
I'd say you are a bit late in terms of sending the resume to them, but nonetheless. I would do the same thing you did last year. Whatever it takes to have them send the resume to HR. I wouldn't tell them to ask HR to set up an interview as this will make you look like a bratty kid giving orders. There is no way to "ensure" that you get an interview- maybe they didn't like you as much as you thought, maybe your resume sucks, who knows. They will do as much as they want to do. After they forward your resume to HR follow up with them if you don't hear anything back. If they really do like you and want to help you out then they will look into it themselves/try to have HR set up an interview themselves, but this is out of your control.
Thanks for the help, I completely understand how asking them to get me an interview would be out of line, I'm just frustrated from not hearing a word last summer even though I thought I'd covered all the bases for getting my foot into the interview process, and I really don't want that to happen again. Everyone I've spoken to has said my resume is great - I worked in IB for a BB in a foreign country this summer (they don't hire from undergrad, which is why I'm applying in NYC)+JPM work experience my first summer usually seems to impress people when networking.
My concern is that I'm asking for the wrong thing; most of the alums/people alums have put me in touch with have admitted to me that they don't really know how recruiting works. Almost everyone has been nice enough to offer to forward in my resume - they just aren't sure what to do then, or who is the best person to send it in, especially if it's someone in S&T who doesn't know anyone in the IB. If anyone knows the right person, group or something that resumes should end up in that would be great.
Also, is this late in the process? My impression was that since the online deadline is the 15th, they wouldn't start doing first rounds until mid/late January. Anyone know anything about JPM interviews?
Applications are due online January 15th. If you have not already done so...do so. Reach out to your contacts again, although you should have been already speaking to them at this point in the game. Generally speaking, I would say that if they liked you and know the quality of work you did while at JP, then I would assume they would ask for you to forward them your resume. If that's not the case, ask them perhaps for their input in strengthening your resume to best situate yourself for an investment banking internship. Keep networking with other alums from your school as well, do not disregard analysts either.
Just to confirm, for people with no access to OCR, the online application deadline for JPM SA is Jan 15th? Where did you see this date?
For what it's worth, I've known people that got IB SA interviews and offers just from having a good resume and applying online at JPM. No networking involved.
MS was Jan 1st I believe, I think Citi is already done as well
Is this FO or BO?
What if am alum is willing to refer me at MS?
Resume forwarded by CIO? (Originally Posted: 11/20/2010)
hey guys,
so i have a family friend who's the CIO (chief information officer) of a bank for the region where i'm in. would it be possible for him to forward my email to HR for me to get an internship in SnT? or would he only be able to help for tech positions?
appreciate the answers. thanks!
Most definitely!
A director in Germany forwarded my resume to the HR recruiting team for trading in New York. I not only got the job, but i turned it down too to accept a better offer. People in companies can do WONDERS.
USE IT!
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