Undergrad career advice for asset management (JPM vs. MS?)
hi! i'm currently facing two offers for essentially AM intern roles. they pay similarly, ones in new york and the other in boston which are both great as well. the role for JPM is asset management product which honestly i'm not 100% sure what that entails, and the role for MS is technically investment management but for municipal bonds.
i did an AM internship for a municipal bond team this summer already so i was worried about being pigeonholed into munis, but it's not something i particularly mind. I also really liked the HM that i interviewed with for morgan stanley, and the work that he described to me seemed more appealing and related to my skillset better, overall.
a few questions that I had for the more seasoned finance people that i hoped i could get some insight on:
- what are the intern programs like i guess? like which one provides a better experience?
- is pigeoning into munis a valid concern for just an intern position?? 😭
- what is the company culture like for each, i know they vary by division and location and stuff so id love to just hear more anecdotes and experiences. also does it affect RO rates?
in general, it feels like i'm struggling to find any more insight on asset management especially internships so i'm asking here to hopefully get more info😅
they're both great opportunities and i am super blessed to have received both at the same time, but i am not getting a lot of time to accept the offers and am panicking quite a bit LOL
Based on the most helpful WSO content, here are some insights to help you decide between the JPM and MS asset management intern roles:
Intern Programs Experience
JP Morgan Global Finance and Business Management Program Internship:
Morgan Stanley Investment Management (Municipal Bonds):
Pigeonholing into Munis
Company Culture and Return Offer Rates
JP Morgan:
Morgan Stanley:
Decision Factors
Conclusion
Both opportunities are excellent, and your decision should align with your career goals, interests, and the type of experience you want to gain. If you prioritize a broader learning experience and networking, JPM might be the way to go. If you prefer a role that aligns closely with your current skills and interests, MS could be the better choice.
Good luck with your decision!
Sources: JP Morgan Global Finance & Business Management Intern vs Goldman Ops, , JP Morgan Global Finance and Business Management Program Internship, What offers would you take over a BB S&T?, CIB Credit Risk J.P. Morgan
The roles seem to be quite different. You need to figure out if A. You want to be investment facing or client facing, and B. If investment facing, what asset class? If you’ve done a munis internships and liked it and can see yourself taking a return offer, do that. If you want to try something new, take JPM. At the end of the day, if you don’t like it, you can always recruit again, job market should pick up by the time you’d need to make that decision. I personally think doing varied internships in college is best, you get great exposure to different career paths, I’ve never been a fan of being a one track mind in terms of career .paths.
how did you not ask what type of tasks the two roles entail during the interview process lol?? JPM AM Products roles is on the investing side despite its name (that information is also written in the role description published on their careers website in case you did not read that). I think the main question would be whether you would enjoy fixed income or not. MS rates team is quite strong, so if you enjoy fixed income I would go with MS. If you are still unsure, go with JPM to keep your options open.
I'm a bit late to this thread so this may be useless, but 100% take the MS/Eaton Vance Role. The JPM product development is not an investing role, and is essentially glorified operations for three years until you're able to move internally into a different seat. I interviewed for the same position and know how their program works well. The MS role would be a buyside front office research seat directly out of undergrad which is substantially better. I am sure that if you do a good job in munis, you will be able to move either into a different FI asset class or move to another shop with MS/Eaton Vance on your resume- a very strong name. JPM AM doesn't allow kids to do research directly out of undergrad, and is notoriously a sweaty shop with much sharper elbows than most of the Boston AM firms. Pay at JPM will also be lower since its not front office.
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