I have offers from Deloitte (Federal Practice), IBM (GBS Commercial Sector), and Navigant (Energy Practice). I ultimately would like to work in energy /sustainability consulting, but I think Deloitte or IBM might offer some more resources than Navigant. How would you rank these groups?
as for the op, i would go with navigant. they are a good firm. ibm is a good firm, but mostly focused in IT..not sure if youll get good exposure there.
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Navigant. Deloitte's federal practice is sort of a catchall category for anything related to the federal government, which can mean pretty much any of their service lines.
They're getting somewhat notorious in my book for pushing roles like "IT risk consultant" and "enterprise risk consultant" onto unsuspecting college students who think they're signing up for MBB-style consulting jobs when in reality they're getting the same sweatshop jobs as the audit guys with worse exit opportunities. If there was one thing that would brighten my day when I was in audit, it would be looking across the room at the ERS guys and knowing it could be worse.
Of course IBM is tech. It's their competitive advantage. They look at data and use data to facilitate strategic recommendations to the firm to improve business processes and/or macro decisions.
For IBM to NOT use technology is like...asinine. Hahahah.
If you don't like technology you shouldn't do IBM. Period. I personally love it because strategy is substantiated through hard data, and I have no interest in doing many of the sectors that consulting does (industrial, retail, utilities). IBM does all that, but it has a technology layer which I love.
Navigant is a great place. If you want to do traditional consulting you should go there.
But...technology is the future. In 30 years most major decisions will be technology driven ;) bwahah [/end shameless bias]
If you want to work in energy, it seems like a no-brainer to go with Navigant. They are a good shop and can offer as much opportunity as the others unless you were in a top group at the others (not federal at Deloitte, I know that).
i would definitely consider federal consulting. many people on this forum have no clue what its like to work at deloitte fed and seem to have an opinion on it. i worked there for 2 years and i can tell you its a great place to work. here is an article i found to be quite interesting and relevant: http://firmsconsulting.com/2010/10/18/%E2%80%9Cis-public-sector-managem…
you are exposed to commercial consulting on a regular basis, so if you think youll never get an opportunity to work in it or pursue it, you are dead wrong. most of the fed practices are very small and utilize resources from the larger commercial groups. you will also most likely end up working under many once well known public figures, such as under secretaries for various federal agencies who have come into consulting post public sector career. the projects can be very stimulating as well. i was doing much more interesting work at the fed practice before i transitioned into the commercial. i work in hc and while i was in the fed practice, we were developing process models, value driver analytics, strategy planning and op designs for large federal systems
additionally, the lifestyle is more laid back and much easier than the commercial side. starting out, your pay will be on par with your counterparts on the commercial side and wont really be impacted until you make manager. you wont travel as much, but traveling gets really old after 2 months.
i am not advocating that fed work is the way to go, but do not undermine it listening to the kids in college on this forum...most of them dont know sh*t anyway. look at all 3 options closely, you have a great opportunity ahead of yourself.
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never heard of navigant. also avoid public sector (federal consulting). so IBM.
Navigant or IBM. You don't want federal practice.
is federal practice bad? i have an interview next week with ey fed practice...
kind of worried now.
as for the op, i would go with navigant. they are a good firm. ibm is a good firm, but mostly focused in IT..not sure if youll get good exposure there.
If you want to do energy, then do Navigant since you'll be in that sector anyway.
how IT focused is IBM in actuality? curious.. i thoought it was more of a branding issue.
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Definitely Navigant given your goals. I would even choose Navigant if I didn't want to focus on energy.
Navigant. Deloitte's federal practice is sort of a catchall category for anything related to the federal government, which can mean pretty much any of their service lines.
They're getting somewhat notorious in my book for pushing roles like "IT risk consultant" and "enterprise risk consultant" onto unsuspecting college students who think they're signing up for MBB-style consulting jobs when in reality they're getting the same sweatshop jobs as the audit guys with worse exit opportunities. If there was one thing that would brighten my day when I was in audit, it would be looking across the room at the ERS guys and knowing it could be worse.
Navigant is a solid shop.
I'm with IBM.
Of course IBM is tech. It's their competitive advantage. They look at data and use data to facilitate strategic recommendations to the firm to improve business processes and/or macro decisions.
For IBM to NOT use technology is like...asinine. Hahahah.
If you don't like technology you shouldn't do IBM. Period. I personally love it because strategy is substantiated through hard data, and I have no interest in doing many of the sectors that consulting does (industrial, retail, utilities). IBM does all that, but it has a technology layer which I love.
Navigant is a great place. If you want to do traditional consulting you should go there.
But...technology is the future. In 30 years most major decisions will be technology driven ;) bwahah [/end shameless bias]
If the Federal is with Strategy & Operations, I would still keep it under consideration.
Is this for full time? I have a friend who internet at Deloitte Consulting Federal Practice within Strategy & Ops and moved to an MBB for full time.
If you want to work in energy, it seems like a no-brainer to go with Navigant. They are a good shop and can offer as much opportunity as the others unless you were in a top group at the others (not federal at Deloitte, I know that).
Also, amen jack callahan...ERS is grand sad lie
i would definitely consider federal consulting. many people on this forum have no clue what its like to work at deloitte fed and seem to have an opinion on it. i worked there for 2 years and i can tell you its a great place to work. here is an article i found to be quite interesting and relevant: http://firmsconsulting.com/2010/10/18/%E2%80%9Cis-public-sector-managem…
you are exposed to commercial consulting on a regular basis, so if you think youll never get an opportunity to work in it or pursue it, you are dead wrong. most of the fed practices are very small and utilize resources from the larger commercial groups. you will also most likely end up working under many once well known public figures, such as under secretaries for various federal agencies who have come into consulting post public sector career. the projects can be very stimulating as well. i was doing much more interesting work at the fed practice before i transitioned into the commercial. i work in hc and while i was in the fed practice, we were developing process models, value driver analytics, strategy planning and op designs for large federal systems
additionally, the lifestyle is more laid back and much easier than the commercial side. starting out, your pay will be on par with your counterparts on the commercial side and wont really be impacted until you make manager. you wont travel as much, but traveling gets really old after 2 months.
i am not advocating that fed work is the way to go, but do not undermine it listening to the kids in college on this forum...most of them dont know sh*t anyway. look at all 3 options closely, you have a great opportunity ahead of yourself.
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