London Strat Consulting WLB
Realistically what is WLB like for an Associate Consultant in Strat Consulting in London? Which firms are better? I know Bain has an early evening programme for anyday between Monday-Thurs and Friday is chill. Do any other firms follow the same thing?
Ideal setup would be early evening on any day between M-Thurs, Friday finish 5ish and weekend free.
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You will find that arrangement to be possible in most top tier firms (with which I mean MBB + top of Tier 2).
Average weekly hours around 50-55 on a moderately busy project. Personally never done over 60 but I don't go begging for more work at 10pm to impress my seniors like a significant number of my peers
I know companies like Strategy& are trialling a 9 day fortnight.
Perfect.
How would you define top tier 2 firms in London? Who would you deem top tier 2 out of:
OC&C, AT Kearney, OW, LEK, Strategy&, EYP, Monitor, Roland Berger
And I'll be recruiting in Autumn. Assume that I dont get an offer at any of the consulting firms. What would you say is a good B plan which then I can transfer into strat consulting? Any smaller boutique consulting firms that are respected? How about in-house consulting roles and transferring, would that be possible?
Thanks in advance
Re B plan; may I ask what your background is?
All of those firms will give you incredible learning, exposure and opportunity. In practice, on par with MBB. There is a finite amount of projects going round and more than any one firm can take. Sometimes Bain wins projects from OW, sometimes the opposite happens. People move around easily, partners move around. Once you are in the industry you will find that tiers and prestige mostly matter to undergrads.
Based on these simplistic criteria, I would probably take OW and S& above the rest, but all of those provide incredibly valuable opportunities
Of the firms you mention the Tier 2 in London are OW, OC&C and LEK, all have some of the top industry practices (although not sure about LEK's reputation these days). I would assume AT Kearney should be Tier 2 given their global strength, but when I graduated from Oxford/Cambridge some years ago they didn't come to campus which was weird. Roland Berger would presumably be Tier 2 but is too small, they only take 5+ people per year from university.
Somebody is going to give me monkey shit for saying this, but other firms on the list are just not as good, they typically pay less and will usually allocate you to one ringfenced practice rather then let you work as a generalist consultant. Avoid Big 4 if you can join a proper consulting firm (might be different outside London, but that's the way it works here).
I would say you typically work 60 hours a week at most of the top firms. McKinsey would be 65. The 50-55 hours that somebody mentioned above does NOT happen at any of the top 5-10 firms, unless you take an average with beach time and other non-project work included.
I’m at one of these firms in London. On a chill project, hours are probably in the low 50s. Standard project would probably be like 57-63. Bad project you’re looking at 65-70 (mainly DDs). Think longest I’ve worked is 73 hours in a week.
What should happen (and from experience at my firm) is that you’ll probably cycle between a standard project followed by a bad project (and so on), to somewhat manage WLB (rather than a string of bad projects in a row). Then sometimes you get lucky and might have a chill project thrown in there every now and then.
Fridays are always chill and I’ve yet to have any weekend work. We have that early evening thing too, but can be heavily project dependent. On a bad project, good chance this just doesn’t happen or you have to compensate with longer hours on the other days. You are also meant to be able to choose your early evening, but sometimes this day is chosen for you (eg you had a tight deadline for Wednesday, so you can only take the early evening on Thursday)
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