Verbal offer but nothing in writing - Any Perspective?
The headline says it all. After having been flown in for an interview and being told by the hiring manager that he likes my resume and will love to offer me the opportunity while at the interview and successive conversations with the internal HR about the offer etc, I was offered this one opportunity on the phone.
The recruiter has discussed the details with me a few times, sought required documents and on 18th June after reviewing all the documents etc, mentioned that "I should be fine" and that I should be getting an offer via email soon. However its been 2 weeks now since that conversation. I emailed the recruiter last Friday and called up Yest to follow up - I've had no response.
This is really doing my head in for the last few days and I've been mentally quite stressed out over this - so took to this forum for some expert views.
Verbal offer but no written offer
A verbal offer does not guarantee any position at the firm. If you receive a verbal offer then stay in touch with the potential employer about the rest of the process. It could be several weeks before you get anything concrete.
Meanwhile, begin focussing your effort in winning a written offer elsewhere. This way you're not stuck holding the bag if the verbal offer isn’t put on paper.
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I always compare the recruiting process to dating - if a girl wants you, she will call. If you don't answer her call, she will leave a message and send you a text. If you like her, but she doesn't call, then she already found another guy - or you are the second or third on her list until the guy calls her.
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The potential employer here is being ridiculous and unfair to you. you are not being impatient or irrational. In my view you are correct and not secure housing before you have an offer letter actually assigned offer with all contingencies removed. Unfortunately in all matters of hiring no news is not good news. Delays on the employer side are always bad news. It's like dating. Make any analogy to dating you wish but the bottom line is when there's mutual interest there's communication and follow through. I would start looking for other options. Sorry I can't be more specific as to how to deal with HR but it sounds like you've emailed called etc. there's not much more you can do to express your willingness to move forward. Ball's in their court.
Thanks Nthdegree. I was thinking of reaching out to the hiring manager directly, whom I haven't spoken with since our interview, to perhaps gauge where this conversation is going and maybe make him aware (personally) that I'm still awaiting immigration approval? Would this be an OK thing to do despite that I haven't been offered anything in writing?
Something inside of me still wants to believe that the delay is not an avoidance but perhaps administrative delays - although responding to an email/phone shouldn't be that difficult even if it is to say that we are working on it. Absolutely no response is making me antsy.
I don't think this is bad news. Some people are just horrifically inefficient and a lot of them have jobs in HR
In my opinion, anything verbal increases your chances from 50/50 to 50/50.
Thanks guys, that is what I feel concerned about. I just feel that ive already expressed my interest enough and they have theirs too, but nothing has been produced in writing despite being told that i'd get it soon. Now, having followed up with a non-responsive recruiter (who was up until 18th June very responsive) I feel perhaps I should reach out to the hiring manager directly and try to have a conversation with him and hopefully I can "read" something between the lines ? I was thinking not following up with the recruiter today (as I left a message yesterday morning) just to avoid being an annoyance. Its ridiculous though seeing that its a big well known company and not a fish and chip shop.
I think they are afraid of giving a job offer without the proper paperwork going through. Also, they are most likely interviewing other candidates in case it doesn't/ or takes too long.
Thanks jojome, I'm hoping to 'stay on the table' one way or another. Appreciate the views, guys !
Definitely stay involved, but never count on having it until its in writing. I have dealt with HR departments that were really inefficient, and a lot of times this is the problem. I would go ahead and follow up with the hiring manager to see what the deal is, and focus on expediting your Visa paperwork if possible. Also, remember that this is a 4 day work week and long holiday weekend - its one of the most unproductive weeks in the country (assuming this is in the US, that is.)
Thanks brosephstalin. Yes, it is indeed here in the US and I have a feeling that its either that (the long weekend) or that the recruiter is simply avoiding getting the paperwork done since I remember her mentioning to me that she would rather get an exact date and get the paperwork done ONCE as opposed to having to go back and redoing the start date in case the initial date doesnt work out. I'll be following up with the hiring manager next week to make him aware and hopefully seal this deal soon. Thanks again
Verbal offer but still haven't heard back (Originally Posted: 01/22/2010)
So i've gone through multiple rounds of interview with a MM i-bank over the past month. Last week I went into their office and they said they were down to 2-3 candidates. One of the guys I interviewed with said they were planning on hiring me and even discussed the terms of the offer that he planned to extend. Oddly enough no one else I spoke with showed the same certainty as him that I would receive an offer, but all had positive things to say to me.
I was told that I'd hear back in a week. It's been more than a week and I've sent a follow-up email didn't receive a response to that. I called this morning and left a message with the secretary but still haven't gotten a call back. In normal circumstances, I'd just assume that I got dinged and move on. However, I feel like their should be some kind of response esp, since i've gotten so far in the process and one individual basically gave me a verbal offer. Should I give it another call or email or just give up?
IMO you have no need to start worrying yet...a week really isnt that long, especially given the current environment. The process of getting a new hire's paperwork together, approvals, etc. can easily last longer than a week. I would relax and give it some more time.
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Verbal Offer for 3 Months at BB (Originally Posted: 06/22/2016)
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You don't have an offer letter - you don't have an offer. Move on and start working to get something else.
I agree with OttoReadmore.
I always compare the recruiting process to dating - if a girl wants you, she will call. If you don't answer her call, she will leave a message and send you a text. If you like her, but she doesn't call, then she already found another guy - or you are the second or third on her list until the guy calls her.
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