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Haven't had any direct interaction with them, but they have been insanely active last year/this year and have raised a lot of money. Some of the terms we've seen them provide sponsors/borrowers are incredibly aggressive from both a pricing and looseness of docs perspective. They have a pretty good angle by being an LP in many PE funds, so they get pretty good looks from a lot of sponsors. 

 
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My understanding is they underwrite their sponsors on the front end when they commit to a fund. I would not call their credit diligence rigorous. The model is underwrite the sponsor, commit to the fund with the "if we commit, we get first look at financing" mantra, then do almost every deal the sponsor asks. They have been trying to offload some positions. 

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All of them. Jokes aside, the “hard” part of underwriting (and what is hard for firms to do right) is balancing between being commercial and not losing $ / doing stupid deals. You’re always playing a game. Act too sponsor unfriendly and no one shows you deals or you only get looks for bad deals. Act too sponsor friendly and you blow up.

If you don’t like that, then do other asset classes where it’s more pure investing.

 

From a European perspective, it seems any decent sub 150m ticket has an army of shops desperate to deploy. Recently saw a doc on a 40m EBITDA business that was comparable to syndicated deal lol

 

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