Sep 25, 2022

How do top credit shops compare to MM/LMM buyout?

If you had to choose between a top well-known credit shop (Ares/Oaktree/Golub) vs a no-name MM/LMM PE firm, which one would you choose? Currently going through a recruiting process and have options to go for both. Leaning towards credit due to brand value but trying to be aware of whether I'm going to pidgeon-hole myself into credit for the rest of my career. Are exit opps going to look vastly different?

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At first when I tried on cycle as an An1, I was just taking interviews not knowing what I wanted to do or where I wanted to do it. One of the interviews was for Private Credit at a MF, and while I didn’t get the offer (my model was a dumpster fire tbh), it made me realize I find credit interesting.

Now, why I’m recruiting for it is because, in general, it has better work/life balance than Private Equity for similar pay. One fund I’m interviewing with said in my first round a comp range of $225-275 is fine.

Recruiting is going fine. Private Credit is exploding, so there’s plenty of opportunities — let’s ignore market overcrowding for now :). As a Private Equity Associate you’ll get looks from a lot of places. Still in the early innings of recruiting, but I’ve been targeting from UMM to MF (e.g., AEA to Blackstone) in their Direct Lending Groups (vs. Special Sits or Opportunistic).

Something flashier would probably keep more doors open and make my resume sparkle more, but after a few years in finance I don’t really care about doing anything cool. If I can make nearly $300K at 25 slinging 1L paper with fine WLB, I’m fine with that.

 
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Thank you, and of course. Happy to help. 

I’ll also add — reasons to use in an interview (you can decide how true they are):

  1.  learning from reps: you learn the most actually doing and executing transactions. each rep you’re learning new things or deepening what you do know. In PE your might only go post LOI a few times and you might never close a deal. In credit the velocity is a lot higher so there’s more chances to get reps 
  2. investment philosophy: credit is appealing because it matches your investment philosophy. the returns in credit are lower in an absolute basis but they’re also much less risky. creditors have legal recourse to protect their capital. you are making sure your downside is protected instead of swinging for the fences
  3. arms length relationship w/ portcos: a lot of PE is managing various things at a company (e.g., building a management incentive program, figuring out what to do with the VP of Ops equity (he’s been a good employee for 20 years but the business has outgrown him), our insurance carrier is denying our enormous claim, etc.). if you prefer focusing on transactions vs. getting in the nitty gritty at companies, private credit could he a better fit
  4. flexibility: many PE funds because of their mandate are going to be more limited in what they can do with structure (e.g., can only take majority positions, can’t go above preferred equity in the cap stack, deals have to be structured equity, whatever) and if the equity thesis isn’t strong enough you're not doing the deal. with credit there are, generally, lot more options → you can move down the cap stack, you can put tighter covenants, you can use warrants or convertible debt, and if it comes to it you can take them to court. also, there’s a nice band of “will give the sponsor a 1.1x times return but will be able to service their debt.” it’s a lot safer diligencing potential downside vs. praying for a rocket ship. 

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