Worst aspect of finance fashion?
What is the one part of finance fashion that you would like to see gone? Gaudy loafers? Thick pinstripe suits that should be relegated to the 80s?
What is the one part of finance fashion that you would like to see gone? Gaudy loafers? Thick pinstripe suits that should be relegated to the 80s?
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Loafers are hideous Black suits Suits with thick stripes Thick tie knots
BUSINESS CASUAL EDITION why can none of you buy a pair of jeans that fucking fit
In 2019 not a single person in high Finance where’s a black suit. It is known etiquette that blue is the ONLY color we wear.
Charcoal grey
*wears.
Depends on the tie: my Hermès/Ferragammo silk ties can take a double Windsor without bulking up, but I'd never try one with something made of a heavier fabric or with a bulky liner.
Loafers are hideous -- with a suit. But for business casual, they are entirely appropriate and IMO good looking to boot.
Nah they’re just fancy crocs
the struggle is real
What about black blazers paired with a black pencil skirt or black blazers alone paired with dresses of varying colors for women? I see most male bankers at campus recruiting events wearing the navy suits, but it's really common for the women to be wearing black blazers and/or black skirts.
Women have a different rulebook that I won’t even pretend to know well.
Ferragamo loafers. As tacky and tasteless as can be.
Loafers (in a professional environment, in a casual one they are fine), black suits (funerals aside obviously), and those stupid ties that are straight at the bottom.
I also wish people would stop wearing brown shoes in cities, especially in the office. They do look good with grey or blue suits but they're not professional.
I, for one, love wearing loafers. Ferragamo preferable.
patagonia vests (sorry finmeme accts). as a fratboy from the south, the popularity of these surprised me a great deal. I used to only see these at oyster roasts and hunting/conservation fundraisers, usually with a flannel or brooks brothers (the other BB) underneath
aggressive undercuts (super short on side, long on top, likely with enough pomade to give a katrina waterfowl PTSD)
highwater pants
talking about your loafers. I love the classic bit loafer and there's nothing wrong with a plain black pair, but when you start calling them DEAL SLEDS in a non-ironic way, I know you've likely never closed anything and are trying way too hard to fit in.
Seconded on the Patagonia vests. I don't get the ubiquity of these things. Everyone in my office got some free company swag at Thanksgiving, one item was a Patagonia vest - it is a piece of shit that ppl pay over $100 for.
Third the patagonia vests, they're f*cking everywhere. When did this even become a thing?
in their defense, vests are a great cover up for man boobs and a distraction from the much hated FUPA
Biggest offender: blue shirt / white collar
Ah yes, the asshole collar. No bigger offender. Even an MD wearing one looks like a try-hard and below MD, forget about it.
How about blue shirt/white cutaway collar? ;-) Annual report photo of Citigroup Asia CEO Francisco Aristeguieta
(more info from what I learned from annual report photos here )
I'm distracted by the peak rivalling K2 between the scrub on the sides of his head
just buzz that shit off bro
I don't like the sneakers-with-work-clothes thing in the morning. I get it, you want to walk to work comfortably. But you're supposedly smart, so find a way to do it without looking like a clown. Plenty of cheap rubber-sole dress shoes that will be comfortable and look normal.
Don’t know why all the MS. I hate the trend if wearing shoes with suits...biggest violators are on ESPN!
Gives me a laugh on the subway every morning. You see 95% of people capable of making it to work in work shoes, and for some reason 5% think their lifestyle is so much more functional/active than everyone else's that they need to wear sneakers.
I agree that I look like a slap dick wearing ASICS with my suit in the morning, but walking 2 miles each way in dress shoes usually results in bloody feet. Just got a pair of Jordan’s though, maybe that will look more hip...
2 miles each way? Taking an Uber might look even more hip than your Jordans.
Get your fucking work done and dress like a clown. You guys overcomplicate everything here.
People who don't match the color of their belt with shoes. Saw a guy in the office with black shoes and a light brown belt. It was like a sunlight from far away. Seriously?
That's not "finance fashion" that's "not knowing fashion at all"
In case you guys are not already familiar with Midtown Uniform, see the link below, a hilarious roasting of Wall Street vest culture:
https://www.instagram.com/midtownuniform/?hl=en
The lack of jeans and sweatshirts.
I love dressing up in a suit but maybe only 5 or 6 times a year not every-single-day.
While I understand it is "corporate culture" to wear a suit in high finance I think it is ridiculous. Only the people who are talking to clients should be in suits. The monkeys in the office should be allowed to wear jeans and sweatshirts.
I understand I will get a bunch of monkey shit from people who have been brainwashed into believing they are important because they wear a suit. But so be it.
In my opinion, suits and formal wear in general help to enforce a certain culture and level of professionalism at work whether you're seeing clients or not.
By your same logic, why not take it a step further with sweatpants and pajamas to the office. Whatever is comfortable right?
Also, just as a side note. I've worn suits long enough that I feel just as comfortable in them as anything else. It grows on you after a while and doesn't feel stiff and formal anymore.
I think it's less of a brainwashing and more of a culture and psychology. John T Molloy (look him up) writes a column on this and specifically addresses business casual versus sloppy dress like hoodies and ripped jeans (google dress for success column).
if I can quickly summarize, if you want to be taken seriously (by clients, bosses, colleagues), you need to take yourself seriously, and that means your appearance. maybe for you that means wearing jeans and a t shirt that's a nice fabric, not too tight, not too loose, and def not wrinkled. maybe that means a suit, but whatever it means, it means you have to be neat.
many of my clients work at large tech companies and I find myself going to their offices on occasion. even the ones who wear untucked shirts, jeans, or even more casual are always dressed neatly.
until our psychology changes, I doubt I'm convincing someone to entrust me with $10mm if I've got a 3 day beard and jeans on.
Belts anything. Makes $180,000 a year, can’t afford to get pants tailored. Get that shit done, and stick to your workouts.
Suspenders get a pass though, for aesthetics only.
Did you really just slam belts??? C'mon, son . . .
What's interesting to me is how there is a direct relationship between the "appropriateness" of a given article of clothing and the degree to which that piece of clothing restricts and binds the wearer.
The most "appropriate" or professional ensemble is a wool suit (flat front, slim fit pants of course) with a cotton shirt, tie, and sleek, Italian / English dress shoes. The shirt and suit restrict movement of the shoulders and chest, the tight pants make deep, diaphragmatic breathing more difficult and compress the genitals, the tie applies a very slight blood choke to the neck, and the shoes bind the feet and make any movement other than standing or sitting more difficult.
Clothing becomes less appropriate and more casual as you ease the restrictions and bindings. Add some stretch to the shirt or suit and your ensemble is no longer appropriate for certain business meetings. Remove the suit jacket and tie and you get "business casual". Put on shoes you can move in and comfortable pants and you're now "casual," and probably not allowed into the office.
Funny how it works that way.
The need to be clean-shaven in lower level positions. It obviously varies from group to group but I don't think any man in 2019 should have to have a smooth babyface everyday. Stubble and short beards should be more acceptable.